The difference between Charles and Patrick in the exchange below is
precisely that Charles is a victim of the Idea of Progress, that we can
get to heaven in a rocking chair, while Patrick sees capitalism for what
it is, a terrible force that will destroy us all unless we destroy it
first.

Carrol

^^^
CB: No, I am definitely not saying we can get to heaven in a rocking chair ( 
smile).

You are conflating the  Marxist conception of humanity leaving the Realm of 
Necessity for the Realm of Freedom with the bourgeois concept of progress.  The 
Marxist concept of progress is moving from capitalism to socialism and 
communism, not just getting rid of capitalism for whatever might pop up , which 
includes barbarism.  In her formula "Socialism or Barbarism", Luxembourg holds 
the Marxist concept of progress.

The idea of struggle against capitalism without any aim or goal of socialism, 
is Bernsteinian error.





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