The two concepts -- fictitious capital and discounted present value -- are not 
entirely 
different. Marx's term is more useful because it emphasizes the fact that the 
future is 
both unknown and unknowable. There was a time when the returns from holding 
General Motors 
stock would have seemed very predictable, almost as much as an investment with 
Bernie 
Madoff.

Anticipating Minsky, Marx realized that over time people would become less risk 
averse and 
the risk-corrected discounted present values would start to rise.

What I did in Marx's Crises Theories was to explain that this trend would tend 
to delink 
move prices from underlying values, thereby eliminating the limiting 
coordinating powers of 
the market and setting the stage for crises.

In a sense, this part of Marx's crisis theory is not that far from Hayek's, but 
I think 
that Hayek may have taken this from Marx without attribution.


On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 07:22:26AM -0800, Jim Devine wrote:
> I have a question: how does fictitious capital differ from the present
> discounted value of an expected income stream? Isn't it true that
> _some_ fictitious capital has a basis in reality (the production of
> surplus-value), so that strictly speaking, it isn't all fictitious?
> (of course, it's hard to know ahead of time which capital is truly
> fictitious and which isn't.)
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