On May 8, 2009, at 10:08 PM, raghu wrote:
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Louis Proyect <[email protected]> wrote:

I can't stand the fact that something I wrote on my blog has triggered such
a useless discussion so I have changed the subject heading.

I found the discussion interesting. I guess I am an idiot.



Me too. In fact I think, following an old Internet tradition I will start incorporating this into my signature.

BTW, below is Lewontin (NYRB) on a host of issues raised: (a) what constitutes "science" (and what is claimed to be "not science"), especially the definitions that are offered (e.g: falsificationism), (b) what dominant ideas/themes/attitudes/approaches were (at the time of his writing: 1998) in the fields of science he writes about, (c) the separation between science (knowledge) and technology (application/ manipulation), and so on.

What about human behavioral genetics, most of whose published experiments would not pass the methodological and statistical requirements of standard animal breeding journals, largely because of the special difficulties involved in studying humans? Or behavioral ecology, which consists largely of telling plausible but unfalsifiable stories? And then there is developmental biology, completely dominated at the present time by the manifestly false assumption that all the information necessary to specify an organism is contained in that organism's genes, while totally ignoring the uncontroversial fact, supported by copious data, that the environment in which development occurs makes an important difference. Why do developmental biologists continue to use and take seriously metaphors like "program" or "computation" or "code of life" or "blueprint" when considering the relationship between genes and organisms? Perhaps we should exclude from science everything that is not physics, chemistry, and molecular biology. All biologists know that DNA is not "self-replicating," but is manufactured by a complex protein machinery in the cell, yet when they describe the results of molecular biology to students in lectures and textbooks and to the public in trade books, newspapers, or television, they almost always speak of "the master molecule that is self-replicating." Well, that's biology. At least physics doesn't suffer from ideological predispositions. Of course Einstein did argue against quantum uncertainty by saying that "I shall never believe that God plays dice with the universe." For Gross and Levitt, science consists of uncontroversial lawlike statements that describe what is "really" true about the physical world, like Newton's laws, or the law of combining proportions in chemistry, or Mendel's laws. It is that simple structure that we all learned in high school. "Obtuse ignorance" is a kind of clumsiness of thought that makes it impossible to consider matters in their real ambiguity and complexity.

It is our experience that the collection of practices that we include within "science" does a much better job of enabling us to manipulate the material world than thinking beautiful thoughts or prayer (although, of course, mental states can influence our physical bodies). But much of what we would like to know cannot be known, and much of what we would like to do cannot be done, even by the best methods available. Science is a social activity carried out by organisms with a limited central nervous system and severely limited sense organs. It is, moreover, carried out by organisms who have already gone through a considerable period of individual socialization and psychic maturation before they become employed as scientists, in a social setting that has a history that constrains thought and action. The state of science should not be confused with the state of the universe.


        --ravi, pen-l useless idiot #1


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