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June 28, 2009

Senior Administration Officials Hold State Department Background
Briefing via Teleconference on Honduras

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AS RELEASED BY THE STATE DEPARTMENT

OPERATOR:

    Good afternoon, and thank you for standing by. I would like to
remind all parties that your lines have been placed on listen- only
until the question-and-answer portion of today's conference. This call
is being recorded. If you should have any objection, please disconnect
at this time.

    I would now like to turn to the call over to Mr. Ian Kelly, your
spokesman. Thank you, sir. You may begin.

KELLY:

    Thanks. Well, listen, thank you. Thank you all for joining us
today on this conference call. We have two senior Administration
officials with us on the line to discuss the political developments in
Honduras and the U.S. diplomatic response to those developments.

    Just a reminder, this conversation is on background, with any
attribution to Senior Administration Officials. We'll start with brief
remarks, and then after those remarks, we'll go to your questions. So,
Mr. Senior Administration Official Number One.

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    Great. Thank you very much. I mean, all of you are familiar with
the events of this morning and as they played out in the course of the
day, and probably also familiar with the statement released by the
White House from the President and also from the State Department from
the Secretary. In addition to those statements, we've been working in
the OAS Permanent Council towards a consensus resolution that will
condemn the effort to depose President Zelaya of Honduras, calling for
his return to Honduras and for full restoration of democratic order.
Although that resolution is not done yet, but I think it shows how
quickly the OAS under the leadership of a variety of key countries,
the United States included, has responded to this event and how
relevant the OAS, and in particular the Inter-American Charter, has
been in determining how the OAS and the regional countries respond to
this kind of event.

    Obviously, this has been an event that has been a long time in
brewing. We and other regional partners have worked very hard to try
to address the underlying causes of it, to address the political
polarization in Honduras, and especially to facilitate dialogue
between competing institutions to ensure that there was a democratic
resolution of the differences in Honduras and a resolution that
respected constitutional order.

    It's profoundly regrettable that that was not the case and that
this morning the military moved against President Zelaya, detaining
him, and then expelling him from the country to Costa Rica. As noted,
we've condemned this action. We view President Zelaya as the
constitutional president of Honduras, and we've called for a full
restoration of democratic order in Honduras. And we will continue to
work with our partners in the OAS and elsewhere to ensure that that
happens, but then also to begin to address the underlying political
polarization and problems that led to this.

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL TWO:

    I just wanted to briefly add to those comments to note that there
are some who are trying to convert this into a bilateral question.
It's very important to recognize that there are multilateral efforts
underway here, and ultimately the answer is going to rise in a
resolution of the political tensions that led us to this moment among
the Honduran institutions themselves that the outside international
community, working through the Organization of American States,
working collaboratively, can help that process along. But this is not
a process that should be interfered with bilaterally by any country in
the Americas. That has been very clear from our position and should be
the position of all governments in the Western Hemisphere that this is
a situation that needs to be resolved free from external influence and
interference.

KELLY:

    OK, we're ready to go to your questions, if you could identify
yourself and your media organization when you ask the question.

OPERATOR:

    Thank you, sir. At this time, anyone wishing to ask a question or
make a comment, please press *1 on your touchtone phone and please be
sure your line is unmuted and record your name at the prompt. One
moment for the first question, sir.

    Our first question comes from Elise Labott. Please state your affiliation.

QUESTION:

    Thanks. This is Elise Labott with CNN. Thanks for doing this. I
know you say that this is a -- it has to be dealt with internally, but
I was wondering, given the presence of U.S. troops in the country,
whether you've been in touch with the military. It sounds like the
military has been kind of restricted to the barracks. So are there any
discussions with the military right now, and are you working with them
to try and find some compromise? Thanks.

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    By the military, you mean U.S. military or Honduran?

QUESTION:

    Well, no, I mean, is the U.S. military making contact with the
Honduran military at this point? I mean, whether the -- where are your
-- I mean, obviously, since the president -- and it sounds like the
foreign minister has been detained too, maybe -- I mean, what are your
contacts with the Honduran government right now?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    We do not have military-to- military communications at this point.
At the beginning of the day, the Honduran armed forces were taking
calls from our Embassy as we were condemning this act, and -- but they
have ceased to take those calls.

QUESTION:

    So how are you -- I mean, what is your communication with the
government right now since you're not talking to the military? And
what is the situation with the foreign minister? Was he detained as
well?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    We believe the foreign minister was detained. I don't have
independent confirmation of that; however, our ambassador in a public
press conference called for the release of all officials who have been
detained, demanding that Honduran authorities release them
immediately.

    We have been attempting to communicate with especially members of
congress and others who have been driving this process, and insisting
that they need to step down and restore full democratic and
constitutional order.

QUESTION:

    But you haven't heard back from them?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    Well, I mean, they haven't done that yet, so...

QUESTION:

    OK. Thanks.

OPERATOR:

    Thank you. Our next question comes from Cal Woodward. Please state
your affiliation.

QUESTION:

    Associated Press. Just to be clear, are you -- is the U.S.
Government calling for the return of the president?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    Correct.

QUESTION:

    Thank you. And while I've got you, should Americans there be
taking any special precautions for their safety?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    Our Embassy has released a Warden Message to U.S. citizens inside
of Honduras explaining events and urging them to be careful in their
movements. Obviously, at this point in time, we're evaluating the
situation on the ground. But given the nature of this event and given
the potential for conflict, we would urge great caution.

QUESTION:

    Thank you.

OPERATOR:

    Thank you. Our next question comes from Mark Mazzetti. Please
state your affiliation.

QUESTION:

    New York Times. Hi, guys. You said earlier, at the beginning of
the call, that this was an even that was a long time in brewing. Can
you say what U.S. officials had done in recent days to try to prevent
this from taking place?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    Well, I mean, first of all, remember, it's not just us. You know...

QUESTION:

    Right...

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    -- as the second Administration official noted, this has been a
brewing conflict that has caught the attention and the concern of the
OAS, of ourselves, and of the Central American -- the other Central
American countries and the European Union embassies inside of
Honduras. And we've been working in concert with them in an effort to
facilitate dialogue among the different and competing institutions,
and especially to try to address the larger issue of political
polarization inside of Honduras. I mean, I don't want to go into great
detail in terms of everyone we spoke to and every action we took, but
we were consistently and almost constantly engaged over the last
several weeks with our partners working with Hondurans trying to
ensure that the political conflict around this survey that President
Zelaya had proposed was resolved in a peaceful way that respected the
democratic institutions and the constitutional order of Honduras.

QUESTION:

    You said a few minutes ago that you were in constant (inaudible)
with the military and that they stopped taking the calls. (Inaudible)
U.S. and allies been in regular contact with the military over the
last few days to again prevent this from happening?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    Yes. We have been in contact with all Honduran institutions,
including the armed forces.

QUESTION:

    OK.

OPERATOR:

    Thank you, sir. Our next question comes from Juan Lopez. Please
state your affiliation.

QUESTION:

    Yes, CNN Espanol. The congress already acted in Tegucigalpa. They
say they have a resignation letter. They made the president of the
congress the new president. Does the U.S. recognize this president? Is
there any possibility that Mr. Zelaya resigned as a condition for
being allowed to leave for Costa Rica?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    We recognize Mel Zelaya as the democratically elected and
constitutional president of Honduras. We see no other.

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL TWO:

    And you will -- to add -- and you will see that as the position of
the entire inter-American system...

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    Yes.

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL TWO:

    -- when the OAS Permanent Council resolution comes out later this afternoon?

QUESTION:

    And the OAS on Friday asked the Secretary General to create a
commission, but the commission hadn't even been created or (inaudible)
or was on its way to Honduras. Was there a delay on the part of the
OAS in taking action? The U.S. had already taken action last week.

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    Well, remember, the OAS has had officials in Honduras, and these
officials have been working in an effort to reduce the tension inside
of Honduras. But the decision last week was to go to Honduras after
Sunday; in other words, they were looking at arriving tomorrow.

QUESTION:

    Thank you.

OPERATOR:

    Thank you. Our next question comes from Andrea Mitchell. Please
state your affiliation.

QUESTION:

    NBC News. Hi, can you respond to Miguel D'Escoto's statement today
(inaudible) saying that, quote, "(inaudible) action (inaudible) part
of a new policy, a new U.S. policy, in other words, (inaudible) that
the army in Honduras has a history of (inaudible) collaboration with
the United States (inaudible) condemn the (inaudible) the President
and the Secretary of State (inaudible) but can you at least respond to
the concerns expressed by the (inaudible)?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    I'm sorry, the contact there is very bad.

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL TWO:

    Yeah.

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    I missed most of that.

QUESTION:

    I'm sorry. I'm asking if you could respond to Miguel D'Escoto's
statement today expressing concerns that the United States policy is
not at all clear and, quote, he said, "Many are now asking if this
coup is part of this new policy," in other words, a U.S. policy, as it
is well known that the army in Honduras has a history of total
collaboration with the United States. Can you respond to that and how
you feel about D'Escoto's comments?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL TWO:

    The position of the United States Government has been very clear.
It's reflected in the statement put out earlier today by President
Obama and the statement put out earlier today by Secretary Clinton and
what you've heard on this call of condemning these acts, calling for
the restoration of democratic order in Honduras, in accordance with
the principles of the Inter- American Democratic Charter. And again,
this is not a question that should be reduced to a bilateral question
of people who want to look at the region through models of the past,
but rather understanding that this is a challenge that faces the
entire inter-American community and one that the inter-American
community is responding to.

QUESTION:

    So does...

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    I'm sure Mr. D'Escoto made those statements because he didn't
understand what was happening on the ground. But you know, aside from
the statements that we have made, I think anybody in Honduras at all
familiar with what we've been doing would recognize that we have been
working very hard to promote a peaceful democratic resolution of this
political impasse. But more importantly, in the aftermath, aside from
our statements, we've been working in the OAS to fashion a consensus
resolution. We've been reaching out to the Central American countries
as they find ways to respond to this in a way that supports democracy.
And we've been communicating with President Zelaya.

QUESTION:

    Do you consider Mr. D'Escoto's statements unhelpful? Do they
undermine U.S. policy and create more suspicions about any U.S. role?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    I'll have to leave that to Mr. D'Escoto to describe why he would
say this. But ultimately, you know, we think our actions speak for
themselves and they speak very loudly.

QUESTION:

    OK, thank you.

OPERATOR:

    Thank you. Our next question comes from Marc Lacey. Please state
your affiliation.

QUESTION:

    I'm with the New York Times. Is the U.S. Government calling this
and considering this a coup d'etat? Can you talk about the use of
language? Some other governments have called it that.

    And then second, can you give us details on how many U.S.
soldiers, troops are in Honduras and what their role is there? Thank
you.

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    I mean, the U.S. troop presence in Honduras is largely contained
to Joint Task Force -Bravo operating out of Soto Cano Air Base. They
provide airlift support for operations throughout Central America and
the Caribbean Basin, largely for humanitarian purposes. I don't know
the exact number of airmen we have at that base, but they're there for
humanitarian purposes.

    And I'm sorry, what was the first part of your question?

QUESTION:

    Coup d'etat.

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    I believe the word "coup" will be used in the OAS resolution. And
I would certainly characterize a situation where a president is
forcibly detained by the armed forces and expelled from a country an
attempt at a coup. We -- I mean, we still see him as the
constitutional president of Honduras. So it was an attempt at a coup.
We don't think it was successful.

OPERATOR:

    Thank you, sir. Our next question comes from Maria Pena. Please
state your affiliation.

QUESTION:

    Yes, with EFE News Services. And thank you for taking my call. I
take it that they're all calling it a coup because the congress in
Honduras has already approved the new president, Roberto Micheletti.
But my question is -- you've already answered that the U.S. is only
looking at accepting President Zelaya as the president, the
constitutional president in Honduras. So now my question has to deal
with what the Honduran ambassador at the OAS said this morning. He
said that for now, Honduras is not asking the U.S. for military
assistance. But my question to you is that in the event that the
constitutional order is not restored and they don't allow President
Zelaya to come back, would you consider a request for military
assistance, or what would you consider to bring about a peaceful
resolution to the crisis?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    Well, again, it wouldn't just be us. I mean, similar situations
have happened in the past. There was something similar in Guatemala in
which an elected president was deposed, and the region got turned
against Guatemala very quickly in a way that Guatemala could not
sustain and so had to back down. And I think that what you're going to
see over the next several days is a consensus throughout the Americas
that this was an illegal and illegitimate act that cannot stand.

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL TWO:

    I think you're also going to see, consistent with the President's
statement earlier today, the call for peaceful dialogue to resolve
this through diplomacy. We very much believe that this is a situation
that can be solved without recourse to the hypothetical that you laid
out, and we are working very hard to ensure that that occurs.

QUESTION:

    Thank you.

OPERATOR:

    Thank you. Our next question comes from Ruben Barerra. Please
state your affiliation.

QUESTION:

    Notimex. Sorry, I just have one quick question, and it basically
is that there is a call from the OAS to call for an emergency meeting
of the foreign minister in Washington next week. (Inaudible) President
Obama will be leaving on Sunday to Russia. And the question is if that
meeting is called, will Secretary Clinton will be attending?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    Well, we're still working on the Permanent Council resolution, so
we don't know if that's a reality yet. But obviously, we would be
participating.

QUESTION:

    Thank you.

OPERATOR:

    Thank you. Our next question comes from Rosiland Jordan. Please
state your affiliation.

QUESTION:

    Yes. Al Jazeera English. First, I wanted to find out whether the
U.S. Government has been in touch with President Zelaya since he was
flown to Costa Rica. I also wanted to find out that since Secretary
Clinton was in the -- in country just about a month ago, whether she
had any conversations with President Zelaya about the political
impasse. And if so, did she make any offer of assistance at that time
to him and to his government?

    And finally, is there any response from the U.S. Government to
Hugo Chavez's claim that this was a U.S.-inspired coup d'etat?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    In regard to the first question, yeah, we have been in touch with
President Zelaya both from here in Washington and also from
Tegucigalpa, not only in terms of talking to him but also trying to
find ways to ensure the safety and well-being of his family.

    In regard to the Secretary's trip to San Pedro Sula to participate
in the OAS General Assembly, the meetings there were largely focused
on the broader issue of the OAS General Assembly and the different
mandates that had emerged from the Summit of the Americas. She did
have an opportunity to meet with President Zelaya twice, and President
Zelaya did talk somewhat about the internal dynamic in Honduras.

    But I think what's important about the Secretary's time in
Honduras was a reaffirmation of the Administration's commitments to
the Inter-American Democratic Charter and to the democratic vocation
of the Organization of American States. And as the Secretary and her
team worked on the resolution related to Cuba, our insistence that the
OAS reaffirm its commitment to democracy and reaffirm its commitment
to the belief of democracy being a fundamental requirement for
membership in the OAS has been proven wise because it is the Inter-
American Democratic Charter that is being used now to interpret events
in Honduras and to guide the region as it responds to events in
Honduras.

    And in regard to President Chavez's statements, I think our
actions speak very loudly that we're committed to democratic
principles and processes and constitutional order, and that we live by
those principles.

QUESTION:

    Thank you.

OPERATOR:

    Thank you. Our next question comes from Julio Marenco. Please
state your affiliation, sir.

QUESTION:

    Hi, I'm with La Prensa Grafica of <El> <Salvador. I would like to
know if you foresee any sanctions against the new government in
Honduras. You say you don't recognize them.

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    Well, we're not -- as noted, we're not talking about sanctions
right now because we think this can be resolved through dialogue. And
I think that once the forces that have conducted this act in Honduras
recognize and understand how isolated they are and how committed the
region is to restoring democratic order, that they'll see they have no
choice but to do so.

QUESTION:

    Thank you.

OPERATOR:

    Thank you. Our next question comes from Mary Beth Sheridan. Please
state your affiliation.

QUESTION:

    Washington Post. There was a report in El Pais newspaper this
morning -- actually, it was an interview with President Zelaya, in
which he said that there had been a coup plot afoot in recent days and
it was only stopped by actions of the U.S. Embassy. Can you tell us
about that or tell us if that's not correct?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    I think the only thing we can say at this point is that we were
very clear with the different sectors of Honduran political life and
Honduras's different political institutions that any resolution to the
political conflict in Honduras had to be democratic and
constitutional, and that we would not abide or support any
extra-constitutional actions.

QUESTION:

    OK. But you were in touch -- with the military, was there that
conversation with the military?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    On several occasions.

QUESTION:

    And how recent?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    I don't have -- I can't tell you the most recent, but it was fairly recent.

QUESTION:

    OK, thanks.

OPERATOR:

    Thank you. Our next question comes from Dmitri Kirsanov. Please
state your affiliation, sir.

QUESTION:

    I'm with ITAR-TASS, the Russian news (inaudible). Gentlemen, I'm
sure you're aware of the statements made by President Hugo Chavez of
Venezuela, who basically threatened military intervention in Honduras.
I was wondering if you are in contact with him about that.

    And secondly, I'm afraid I didn't quite understand -- are you
saying that there is a possibility of President Obama canceling his
trip to Moscow over some emergency meeting at the OAS?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL TWO:

    To answer the second question first, no. I think the question was
whether that trip would interfere with the Secretary of State's travel
plans.

QUESTION:

    OK, sir.

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL TWO:

    So just leave that very clear that no one is saying that.

    And on the first question, again, the call here from President
Obama and from many leaders in the hemisphere have been for this
situation to be resolved through peaceful dialogue, free of outside
interference in the internal affairs of Honduras by other countries
unilaterally. The United States firmly supports that position and will
continue working to advance that position to ensure that this, again,
remain a situation that is resolved peacefully and free from outside
interference.

QUESTION:

    But are you speaking with the Venezuelan authorities?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    We have several ways to communicate with Venezuela. But we don't
believe Venezuela is planning on sending any troops. Venezuela is
participating in the OAS process and working towards a peaceful
resolution. They have no intention of introducing troops.

QUESTION:

    Thank you.

OPERATOR:

    Thank you. Our next question comes from Bill Schmick. Please state
your affiliation.

QUESTION:

    I'm with Bloomberg. And I don't cover State, and I just wonder, do
you plan to identify yourself for somebody who doesn't recognize
voices?

KELLY:

    I think not.

QUESTION:

    OK.

KELLY:

    That's the whole meaning of background.

QUESTION:

    No, I understand the meaning of background. But you know, in other
places, they tell you who -- they at least tell you who's talking.

KELLY:

    Yeah. This is Ian Kelly. If you want to contact me separately,
I'll be glad to talk to you.

QUESTION:

    OK. How do I do that?

KELLY:

    Well, we can talk after the conference.

QUESTION:

    Thank you. That'd be fine.

OPERATOR:

    Thank you, gentlemen. Our next question comes from William Booth.
Please state your affiliation.

QUESTION:

    Washington Post. What is the State Department's feeling about the
survey or the vote that the president of Honduras was going to
(inaudible) today?

    And the second question is -- you've been discussing sort of the
internal dynamic in Honduras and the various players. Could you just
give us a little help and a little tutorial who you think the
principal actors in this coup was? Was the military an actor or an
instrument? Could you help us understand a little bit your perspective
on what happened this morning in Honduras?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    Yeah, in regard to the survey or poll that President Zelaya had
proposed, we viewed this as an internal domestic Honduran issue that
needed to be resolved by Honduran institutions. The fundamental
political divide within Honduras was whether or not this effort by
President Zelaya was seen as constitutional and legal, or whether it
was seen as illegitimate and unconstitutional. And several
institutions, including the public ministry, which is their equivalent
of attorney general, the supreme court, and the congress had declared
this survey to be illegitimate and illegal.

    But we were trying to find ways to -- along with our partners, to
bridge the gap that existed and to ensure that the final decision that
was made about this polling was done in a way that was peaceful and
respected democratic values and the constitutional processes.

    Obviously, it was the armed forces that detained the president
today and expelled him from the country. But as we're seeing now with
the naming of an interim president by the congress, this was an effort
that has included other political institutions.

OPERATOR:

    Thank you. Our next question comes from Kirit Radia. Please state
your affiliation.

QUESTION:

    ABC News. Actually, just if I can go back to the last thing that
you said there. You said other political institutions. Could you be a
little bit more specific as to who you think was orchestrating this?

    A couple other things on this. There's a lot of Honduran media are
reporting on a so-called resignation letter that was written by
President Zelaya. What's your view on that?

    And then are you at all considering removing your ambassador at this point?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    I mean, in regards to the last point, the presence of our
ambassador is an important means and mechanism of communication of
U.S. interests and purpose, so we don't have the purpose or intent of
removing him at this point in time.

    In regard to who these actors are, I'd prefer not to go into
detail and point fingers at people because we -- aside from restoring
constitutional and democratic order to Honduras, there's also the
larger issue of addressing the problem of political polarization and
rebuilding trust between and among institutions. And that's going to
require a lot of work by the OAS and by all interested parties,
including ourselves.

QUESTION:

    And then on the last question about the resignation letter that's
been reported on?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    It would be hard to take that letter seriously given the
circumstance that President Zelaya was in.

OPERATOR:

    Thank you. Our next question comes from Elise Labott. Please state
your affiliation, ma'am.

QUESTION:

    Oh, thanks. I'm with CNN. I just have one quick question, back on
the idea of the survey. You said that you felt other institutions felt
that it was illegal and unconstitutional, but did you think it was and
did you advise the president not to invoke it?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    Again, it's not up to us to determine what's legal or not within
the context of Honduras. It was important for us to leave this to
Honduran institutions to try to resolve. And that was really our
focus, the focus of the OAS, and the focus of the other countries who
were interested in a peaceful resolution of...

QUESTION:

    Yeah, but -- I'm sorry. You talk about the democratic charter of
the OAS and that you want all constitutional means to be adhered to.
Did you find that -- or you and your partners, I mean not just the
United States, but did the international community and the OAS, who's
been talking about democratic principles and the need for
constitutional -- adhering to the constitution, believe that it was in
line with the constitution?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    Well, again, it's not up to us to determine what's in line with
the constitution.

QUESTION:

    Yeah, but now you're invoking the -- I'm sorry, but now you're
invoking the constitution to return him. So did you think that what he
was doing was in line with the constitution?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    No, but there's a big distinction here because, on the one
instance, we're conducting about conducting a survey, a nonbinding
survey; in the other instance, we're talking about the forcible
removal of a president from a country. So I think we can distinguish
between those terms -- those two in terms of what's constitutional and
what might be left to institutions.

    But I think what's important to remember about the survey is that
it was just that. It wasn't even a formal vote. It was a nonbinding
survey. And the issue of whether it was legitimate or illegal did not
revolve around the survey itself. It revolved around who conducted it
and whether or not this could be conducted by the government and which
institution in the government could conduct it, and whether or not as
it's being conducted state security forces could be used to both
manage and secure the equipment that was being used for the survey and
provide security. And that's where the divide occurred within
Honduras. It was about who conducted this survey, with several
institutions in Honduras insisting that the Honduran Government could
not conduct it, at least not in the way that President Zelaya had
suggested.

    And from our point of view, what was important was not inserting
ourselves and trying to make a determination of what was legal or
illegal, but trying to insist that the Hondurans find a way to resolve
this in a way that was in accord with their constitution.

KELLY:

    Emily, I think we have time for one more question.

OPERATOR:

    Thank you, sir. Our next question comes from Rosalind Jordan.
Please state your affiliation.

QUESTION:

    Yes, Al Jazeera English. I was going through an October 2008
report assessing the effectiveness of the Embassy down at Tegucigalpa,
and it pointed out that there were many endemic problems with Honduras
that made the Embassy's work much more difficult, notably political
and law enforcement corruption, the drug trafficking problem, as well
as Zelaya's leftist political leanings. Now, granted, this report was
written during the previous administration, but what I wanted to ask
was had there been any concerted effort within the State Department or
within the Obama Administration to assess the situation in Honduras,
reassess the U.S.'s relationship with Honduras over, you know, over
the next period of years, or was this simply not as much of a priority
as has been dealing with the war in Iraq or Iran or anything else in
the Middle East?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    Well, I mean, we just came from San Pedro Sula, Honduras at the
OAS General Assembly, and President Obama was in Trinidad and Tobago
where President Zelaya was. So since almost the beginning of this
Administration, we've been engaged in the hemisphere in a pretty
dramatic way. And President Zelaya has been present at two of these
events, and the President had an opportunity to speak to him in
Trinidad and Tobago, and the Secretary also. And obviously, the
Secretary had an opportunity to speak with him several times in
Honduras.

    But again, Honduras is a country that we've had an important
relationship with for a long time. We've got a free trade agreement
with them through CAFTA. They're part of the Merida Initiative.
They're part of the Millennium Challenge effort by the United States,
and they also receive special status for Hondurans living in the
United States through the temporary protective status program. And in
that regard, I mean, Honduras has been an important partner over time.
And so we've always been interested in the well-being of Honduras.

QUESTION:

    I guess the question really is: Was there enough concern about the
polarization between the various political groups in country? Did the
U.S. miss an opportunity to really help head off today's events?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL ONE:

    Well, I think we and others worked very hard to do that, but we
were unsuccessful.

KELLY:

    Any final comments from our two speakers? If not, thank you all
for joining us. And just to remind, the attribution for this is Senior
Administration Officials.

OPERATOR:

    This concludes today's conference. Thank you so much for joining.
You may disconnect at this time.

CQ Transcriptions, June 28, 2009

List of Speakers

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS ACTING ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE FOR

PUBLIC AFFAIRS IAN C. KELLY








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