Greetings Economists,
On Jul 9, 2009, at 12:26 PM, Doug Henwood wrote:

Oh the community. I've heard that so many times around Pacifica I could scream. The community is a vague and undefinable thing. Most people in the broadcast or print audience don't really know all that much about what's going on. "Community input" sounds nice but it's an absolutely empty concept.

Doyle;
Let's put in the context of what happens online in intellectually demanding areas like playing chess. The chess playing community is bigger and better skilled than in the sixties when I learned how to play. One could say the same thing about photography. The development of skills is off the radar in terms of measuring, but the community development is important. Any social protest that doesn't use the internet is foolish.

What is more important in a capitalist economy is which business is more viable. Community content is more important than media objects.

Doug,
You've got to be kidding. Facebook status updates consist mostly of inane reports of daily life ("I need coffee!" "I just steamed some sugar snap peas." - actual quotes from my FB friends), or reposts of material produced by professional journalists. The amount of amateur or "community" information production approaches zero.

Doyle;
So you down grade that as trivial. So trivial is not worth anything to you. Community content is actually very important to people, but the ability to use it on a more complex scale with pictures and sound is new enough that we don't know yet how that will move things. Still providing the service is profitable for Facebook. I see that Murdock has failed with Myspace because of corporate miss calculations. So the whole system of social networking is not easy to figure out based upon past experience with old media.

Doug,
Wow. And you said Gladwell was "superficial," "more slogan than substance"? Funny.

Doyle;
The problem with Pen-L is the medium does not promote depth and substance. Why single me out for lack of substance? What is more substantive about our replies? The Pen-L process lacks the means to give substance.

Doug,
The Internet produces very little original information. It's a medium of distribution, not production.

Doyle;
Flickr and YouTube produce a tremendous amount of original high quality product.
Doyle
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