c b wrote:
> On freedom we must make the basic materialist argument that in
> capitalism, there is no freedom  if you don't have a job or enough
> income to get the basic material necessities - decent food, decent
> shelter, decent clothes, decent health care, decent recreation, decent
> education, etc.  "Freedom" to sleep under a bridge is not freedom.
> You can't enjoy all the wonderful American freedoms if you don't have
> a right to a job or income.

right. In addition, we have to be clear that we embrace a positive
definition of freedom, i.e., the freedom to do what we want, rather
than the negative one (freedom from external restraint, usually from
government rules).

of course, this isn't true or absolute freedom, since what we want is
determined by our genes and upbringing, by biology and society.
-- 
Jim Devine / "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own
way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.
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