If I may, let's shift to a somewhat different perspective in a hypothetical 
future where most manual tasks are automated via robots, etc. Under current 
institutional arrangements with capital owning the means of production, there 
would be a vast reduction in the need for labor and a concomitant reduction in 
aggregate wages for that resource. We'd have the gap in incomes to purchase 
potential output that we are currently experiencing. Yet, training these people 
to be molecular biologists or computer scientists (where there would be demand 
for labor) would not be an option. How would we best adjust social and economic 
arrangements to best serve that society? The offshoring of jobs aside, aren't 
we experiencing the effects of being part way along to that kind of future?

Peter Hollings 

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From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sean Andrews
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:30 PM
To: Progressive Economics
Subject: Re: [Pen-l] What job shortage?

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:44, Eugene Coyle <[email protected]> wrote:

> But there is a remedy for the glut of workers.  Shorter working time.  If we 
> adopt a four day week, 20 percent of the work-hours on offer in "standard 
> jobs" disappears.  Supply drops, pay rises.  Why won't Pen-l discuss this 
> beyond the sneer level?

Well it only works as a solution if there is a mandated wages and
benefits for those reduced hours.  Earlier today, Jim Devine passed
around a story mentioning that, at the moment, the average number of
hours/week is 33.  That's already almost equivalent to a four day work
week.  BUt most of those people are underemployed and would like to be
working more so that they can actually "reproduce their labor power."
the increase in employment, as the article mentioned, would likely
just be to give those workers more hours rather than hiring a few
other part timers to fill the new demand.  Likewise, one of the main
critiques of companies that offer benefits to full timers (like
Wal-Mart, Starbucks, etc.) in recent years is precisely that they
would hire more part timers, i.e. more people at 20-30 hours/week, so
that they didn't have to provide benefits.   If the wages for a 32
hour work week are 20% less than that of the 40 hour (and the benefits
are 100% less, i.e. part timers don't get health care) then this is
hardly a workable solution.  I've heard it mentioned before so maybe I
am misunderstanding the particularities, but there doesn't seem to be
a clear way this would help the problem unless there is the enormous
external variable of mandated living wages and benefits.

s
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