On Jun 3, 2010, at 5:53 PM, Jim Devine wrote:

.....I never said he was a social democrat or anything like that....

In the 19th century, social-democracy was Marxism. In the early twentieth century, social-democracy was capitalist apologetics masquerading as Marxism. In the later twentieth century social- democracy was capitalist apologetics masquerading as social reform. In the twentieth century social-democracy is neoliberalism masquerading as liberalism. Obama is a social-democrat of the purest water, no different in any degree from leaders of the "Socialist International" like Shimon Peres, Tony Blair, and Gerhard Schroeder or wannabe social-democrats like Sam Webb et. al.




Shane Mage

The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.

Joe Stack (1956-2010)







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