Jay Hanson wrote:
> ... If one removes equilibrium and Pareto where is the normative claim for 
> market outcomes? In other words, assuming they did a fairly good job of it, 
> why not have government simply give people basic biological needs (food, 
> water, shelter, healthcare, etc.)?<

I don't know that equilibrium is that central to normative claims for
the market. Pareto optimality also seems a poor basis for normative
claims, since it gives a small minority (of one) the veto power over
any changes. In any event, most economists use Pareto only to define
(static) "efficiency," which is only one metric for making normative
claims. Chicago schoolers claim that efficiency is their only
normative criterion, while others say that "equity" is important, too,
and can overrule efficiency. There are of course other normative
criteria available.

A dynamic-disequilibrium approach of the sort I use says that Pareto
is irrelevant, even if equilibrium does play a role (as a benchmark
and/or center of gravity). Market changes regularly mean that some
people are made worse off at the same time others are made better off.

But return to the 50,000 euro question: what normative justifications
are there for the market? First, free-market economists deny the
possibility that the government could do "a fairly good job." James
Buchanan and the Virginia "public choice" school argue that democracy
is inherently inefficient and that the government represents a
"special interest." Thus, government is a tool of last resort (i.e.,
for national defense, defending private property rights, enforcing
contracts, etc.)

Second, the so-called Austrian school doesn't care about Pareto and
equilibrium either. They see the market as providing (negative)
freedom and that's enough for them.

By the way, mainstream economists do not have a concept of needs. (For
them, "needs" are simply intense subjective wants.) I have a paper in
the works that defines that concept: basic needs are costs of human
living, while if these costs are not paid, human health declines (on
the physical, mental, and/or social dimensions).
-- 
Jim DevineĀ / "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own
way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.
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