Sounds like Larry Summers and Brad De Long are channeling (two channels) John 
Bates Clark.

Gene Coyle
On Jan 11, 2011, at 5:43 PM, michael perelman wrote:

> Rakesh mentions John Bates Clark theory.  Actually, Clark had two
> opposing theories.  For policy makers, he taught that trust, cartels
> and monopolies were necessary to contain destructive competition.  For
> workers, competition resulted in just outcomes.
> 
> I go into more details in The Invisible Handcuffs & Railroading Economics.
> 
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Lakshmi Rhone <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "We do not really know if a US bus
>> driver's wages are higher, in real terms ,i.e., in terms of purchasing power
>> (which is what is socially relevant) than the wages of an Indian bus
>> driver."
>> 
>> 
>> Yes we do; it's much higher in $PPP. Tens of times higher. Econ I students
>> still learn
>> that it's basically true that all factors earn an amount equal to the value
>> of what they
>> contribute to output." And the wage is supposed to equal the marginal
>> revenue product of labor, no?
>> 
>> Ever since Clark this theory has supposed to make market-determined
>> distribution seem fair.
>> There are a lot of problems with this theory in terms of whether it adds up
>> with non-constant returns to scale
>> and whether it has empirical support and whether it can be formulated in an
>> empirically testable manner.
>> 
>> Leave that all aside. My point is that what gives the theory some practical
>> resonance among the American working class
>> are not the illusions of competition as Marx theorized but the protection
>> afforded workers via restrictive immigration law.
>> 
>> If wages were set in the absence of immigration control, workers would have
>> no illusion that their earning reflects the value
>> of what they contribute to output. I am not saying that in the absence of
>> open borders the American working class is not exploited.
>> 
>> 
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