On 5/11/2011 5:17 PM, Sandwichman wrote:
> ...and so an exchange rambles on, heedless of its digression from the
> subject line and the question that initiated it. I guess the short answer
> would be "Living wage? Kill jobs? Myth? Who cares?"
>    
I think Karl would have agreed:

These few hints will suffice to show that the very development of modern 
industry must progressively turn the scale in favour of the capitalist 
against the working man, and that consequently the general tendency of 
capitalistic production is not to raise, but to sink the average 
standard of wages, or to push the value of labour more or less to its 
minimum limit. Such being the tendency of things in this system, is this 
saying that the working class ought to renounce their resistance against 
the encroachments of capital, and abandon their attempts at making the 
best of the occasional chances for their temporary improvement? If they 
did, they would be degraded to one level mass of broken wretches past 
salvation. I think I have shown that their struggles for the standard of 
wages are incidents inseparable from the whole wages system, that in 99 
cases out of 100 their efforts at raising wages are only efforts at 
maintaining the given value of labour, and that the necessity of 
debating their price with the capitalist is inherent to their condition 
of having to sell themselves as commodities. By cowardly giving way in 
their everyday conflict with capital, they would certainly disqualify 
themselves for the initiating of any larger movement.


Carrol


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