From: Sandwichman

Answer: "but with this too grows the revolt of the working class, a class
always increasing in numbers, and disciplined, united, organised by the very
mechanism of the process of capitalist production itself." Maybe not
"dialectical rubbish" but perhaps wishful thinking as to the logical
inevitability of the "very mechanism of the process of capitalist production
itself" disciplining, uniting and organizing the working class for the
revolt to expropriate the expropriators.

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CB:  Yup :>(  .  Unfortunately, Jay Gould's dictum that he could hire
half the working class to kill the other half has played as much a
role in capitalist history since 1867 as Marx's dictum.  This has been
by both out right murderous forms as in the US wars on Korea and
Vietnam and,  "civil" forms as in relatively high living standards
afforded masses of workers in Western nations that beget opportunism.

The capitalists have learned from Marx. They have taken measures that
very precisely counter the processes Marx drew attention to.  For
example, with so-called  globalization they have scattered the point
of production physically and geographically significantly  reversing
what Marx termed "cooperation" - putting large numbers of workers in
one plant or factory , and in industrially concentrated regions.
Marx  used the term "cooperation"  in an earlier chapter ( from the
above quoted passage) in which he defines industry as the combination
of cooperation and machinery.   The number of workers necessary to do
a job is reduced in general  by the constant revolution of the
instruments of production ( see _Manifesto of the Communist Party).
More efficient machinery or instruments of production is defined by
fewer person hours necessary to do the same amount of work.  The
revolutions in science and technology which allows more specifically
automation, and major advances in communication and transportation
have made this possible.

Cooperation is a major aspect of how Marx sees that workers are
"disciplined, united, organised by the very mechanism of the process
of capitalist production itself".  Significantly  negating cooperation
or partially negating it undermines Marx's prediction  substantially.
 The negation of cooperation was through the greater development of
machinery ( computers, automation , containerization, trucks, et al).
So, this is dialectical in that one aspect of this unity and struggle
of opposites negates the other aspect.  But it is not a happy
dialectic from the standpoint of the working class burying capitalism.
  boo hoo !

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