And Senator Kyl, one of the select Super-Congress, has threatened to veto cuts 
in the entitlement program called "defense" by quitting the committee. 

Gene Coyle

On Sep 9, 2011, at 8:57 AM, Louis Proyect wrote:

> NY Times September 8, 2011
> A Bipartisan Move to Tackle Benefits Programs
> By JACKIE CALMES and ROBERT PEAR
> 
> WASHINGTON — In a significant shift driven by bipartisan concern 
> about the looming long-term debt, Republicans and Democrats are no 
> longer fighting over whether to tackle the popular entitlement 
> programs — Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security — but over how 
> to do it.
> 
> In the presidential race, Gov. Rick Perry of Texas, the Republican 
> front-runner of the moment, took the debate over entitlements to a 
> level never before seen from a major candidate, calling for the 
> end of all three programs as currently structured. In his debate 
> with Republican rivals Wednesday, he amplified his claims that 
> Social Security is a Ponzi scheme and a “monstrous lie” to younger 
> Americans counting on the money for retirement. On Thursday, he 
> circulated similar past criticisms from his chief rival, Mitt 
> Romney, who defended Social Security in the debate.
> 
> At the same time, Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill 
> expressed a willingness to wring savings from the long-untouchable 
> programs during the first meeting of the special committee that is 
> charged with recommending $1.5 trillion in deficit reductions over 
> the decade. Then President Obama, in his address to a joint 
> session of Congress on spurring job creation, reiterated his call 
> for a plan reducing long-term debt with both changes in 
> entitlement programs and taxes from the wealthy.
> 
> It is far from clear whether the comments from Mr. Perry, a 
> self-proclaimed provocateur, will speed or stall early moves 
> between the White House and Congress to deal with the costly 
> benefit programs at the heart of the debt problem. The parties’ 
> repositioning on the New Deal and Great Society pillars is leaving 
> both sides on shaky ground, uncertain of where to stand.
> 
> To the chagrin of many in his party, this summer Mr. Obama 
> proposed changes in Medicare and Social Security that once would 
> have been unthinkable for a Democratic president during his 
> unsuccessful talks with the House speaker, John A. Boehner, for a 
> “grand bargain” on cutting deficits. In return for the 
> Republicans’ agreement to raise taxes after 2012 for the wealthy, 
> Mr. Obama indicated that his party would support slowly increasing 
> the eligibility age for Medicare to 67 from 65 and changing the 
> formula for cost-of-living increases in Social Security to a less 
> generous one that some economists consider more accurate.
> 
> Now Mr. Perry’s comments could cause Congressional Democrats to 
> dig in against changing the entitlement programs, sensing a 
> political advantage in 2012 — especially if Mr. Perry is the nominee.
> 
> For all of Mr. Perry’s bravado, many Republicans are anxious about 
> his stand on entitlement programs, Social Security especially, 
> given their popularity and the disproportionate number of seniors 
> who vote. Even his advisers tried to temper the remarks before Mr. 
> Perry made plain he was standing his ground, and some Republican 
> lawmakers on Thursday were distancing themselves from his remarks.
> 
> Many Congressional Republicans remain haunted by the experience of 
> former President George W. Bush’s futile effort in 2005 to partly 
> privatize Social Security, which contributed to the party’s loss 
> of its House and Senate majorities the next year and convinced 
> Congressional Democrats of the power of the issue.
> 
> More than half of Americans, 56 percent, would be less likely to 
> vote for a presidential candidate who favored phasing out Social 
> Security so that workers could invest their payroll taxes in the 
> stock market, according to a nationwide poll in June by The Wall 
> Street Journal and NBC News. That included 64 percent of Democrats 
> and 57 percent of independents, whose swing votes decide 
> elections, and even a 45 percent plurality of Republicans. Only 
> one-third of Republicans said they would be more likely to vote 
> for someone who espoused ending Social Security.
> 
> Until Mr. Perry’s recent entry into the Republican contest, the 
> debate over reining in the projected growth of the entitlement 
> programs focused on the health programs, Medicare and Medicaid. 
> Their projected costs, given the aging of the population and 
> fast-rising medical expenses, are greater and growing faster than 
> those for Social Security.
> 
> While House Republicans boasted in April of the boldness of their 
> budget — it would turn Medicare into a voucher program for private 
> insurance and Medicaid into a reduced block grant to states — they 
> steered clear of changing Social Security.
> 
> Now they have a potential presidential standard-bearer who is 
> taking on Social Security — the so-called third rail of American 
> politics — with both hands.
> 
> The collapse of the budget negotiations between Mr. Obama and Mr. 
> Boehner, with their tentative trade-off between savings from 
> entitlement programs and new revenues, left many in both parties 
> convinced that no significant debt-reduction bargain is likely 
> before the 2012 elections. Unless Republicans accept higher taxes 
> on the wealthy, and they swear they will not, Democrats will not 
> support reductions in future entitlement benefits.
> 
> Yet both parties are feeling the pressure to act sooner. That 
> reflects not only the seriousness of the nation’s looming debt 
> crisis as baby boomers age, but also the possibility later this 
> year that just as in this summer’s fight over raising the debt 
> limit, the financial markets and the economy in general will be 
> shaken by dysfunction in Washington if no plan can be mapped out 
> by the new deficit-reduction committee and enacted by Congress.
> 
> The turn in both parties toward tackling the cost of the 
> entitlement programs has been building. In 2010, Congressional 
> Democrats approved about $500 billion in future savings from 
> Medicare to help pay for the new health care law, though 
> Republicans attacked them for it in last year’s midterm elections. 
> But the onset of the new deficit committee’s work and Mr. Perry’s 
> scathing critique of social spending has added a new dimension.
> 
> At the first meeting of the House-Senate committee on deficit 
> reduction, which is to make recommendations by Nov. 23 for a quick 
> up-or-down vote in Congress, several Republicans said that 
> entitlements were the main cause of annual deficits and should be 
> the panel’s focus.
> 
> “In order to succeed, I know this committee must be primarily 
> about the business of saving and reforming social safety-net 
> programs that are not only failing many beneficiaries, but going 
> broke at the same time,” said Representative Jeb Hensarling, 
> Republican of Texas and co-chairman of the committee, which is 
> evenly divided between Republicans and Democrats.
> 
> James E. Clyburn of South Carolina, a House Democratic leader on 
> the panel, said that he was for “smart and compassionate budget 
> cuts” and “ending military adventurism,” but that Congress must 
> not shred Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid benefits.
> 
> Separately, the senior Democrat on the House Ways and Means 
> Committee, Sander M. Levin of Michigan, circulated a memo listing 
> two dozen options that could squeeze more than $500 billion out of 
> Medicare in the next 10 years. Aides to Mr. Levin said that he was 
> not endorsing the ideas but helping other Democrats understand the 
> sorts of actions that could be taken.
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