Doug cited Sam Gindin:

> Very good response; I think you are right on re labour. The one thing I’d
> add, and I think it is very significant, is that this crisis in labour
> overlaps with the crisis on the left.  I’m convinced that any renewal in
> labour won’t happen until there is an organized left with feet inside and
> outside labour - and even then it would have to be a left of a particularly
> creative kind. Which raises the unavoidable question of what we do to create
> such a left if neither the unions nor the democratic party are sites to make
> this happen and the notion of this happening through the old Leninist
> structures seems no less of a dead-end. THIS is the challenge that needs
> taking on....

I would put it differently.  These two are aspects of one and the same
crisis.  But that is because I view the left as the subset of the
workers' movement that makes a conscious effort to see the big
picture, the longer term, etc.  What happens to the ocean ecology
affects the dolphins.

But I agree with Gindin's main point, which -- in my interpretation --
is that the primary condition for the labor movement to gain strength
is that the left get its act together.  Indeed.  That is the starting
point.  Although, unlike Gindin, I don't know whether the unions and
the DP will prove to be infertile ground for these seeds to emerge.
That is something that we'll sort out in retrospect.  And, ultimately,
that is something to be decided by those who are in the DP and the
unions, not by those of us outside of them.

IMO, wherever there are working people, the embryo of working class
struggle is lodged.  It's hard to tell in advance whether existing
restrictive structures (as they shift and are exposed to all sorts of
contingent events, in and outside) will starve the embryo to death or
will prompt it to build resistance and strength.  In times like these,
my reading of history says that bold tactical actions (involving
crowds) and, not just the agitation that naturally accompanies those
actions, but serious propaganda (in the old sense of the term, focus
on theorizing the present and the alternative to the present and
spreading that effort, sharing its results, etc.) work.  And I see
people responding.  In my immediate environment, parents and teachers
are very receptive and willing to take actions that a few years ago
were unheard of.   The great thing about Occupy is that it opens up
the mind of people to entertain the fluidity or plasticity of social
life.   It is a narrow window though.

Gene wrote:

> Thanks for passing along the Sam Gindin point.  It has been made before and
> seems obvious to me.  But labor focuses on very narrow interests and Occupy
> seems to have silos for people looking to take care of an interest group need
> (student loans, mortgages underwater, no jobs for recent graduates) and 
> nothing
> of the creative renewal for all that Gindin mentions as the need.

With due respect, Gene, I find this a bit too stingy.  I prefer to say
that Occupy is a broad umbrella in which people can at least know what
one another is doing.  It also facilitates communication and exchange
of ideas.  Occupy does not gets in anybody's ways, or preempts
anybody´s initiative.  That is good.  There are a lot of things in
politics that are NOT mutually exclusive.  Just knowing what others
are doing and being able to talk to them are necessary (though not
sufficient) conditions for people to coordinate, which is a step in
the direction towards effective, mor binding cooperation (i.e. people
agreeing on goals and then pulling together to achieve them, with
greater discipline and commitment).

Each of the items Gene lists is a huge opportunity to lead serious
struggles.  I mean, just take student debt slavery.  You can work on
helping students or parents or whoever to build or strengthen existing
organizations, etc. that take political action to force legislation
that slashes the debt, provides more effective support to students,
expands or multiplies public universities, etc.  You can write books
on how the current conditions in which our youth gets its education is
contrary to the need of the nation to build up its main "economic
resource," etc. so students, their families, and everybody else
envision what unforgivable drag the status quo represents.  Etc.

So, right now, Occupy is no obstacle.  On the contrary.  However, is
Occupy gearing up adequately for the fights to come?  How will the
people involved handle the cleavage between those active in getting
Obama reelected and those actively against it?   Extremely unlikely,
but what if the Germans change course, and the whole capitalist world
go all Keynesian, unemployment goes down, etc.?  That would of course
be, partially, an effect of this wave of struggles in which Occupy
views itself.  Knowing how to manage (partial) success is also a big
challenge.  These are all related by somewhat different questions.  In
this light, many of the objections and criticisms that people (e.g.
Jodi Dean, Doug, etc.) raised against Occupy early on will become
operational as time goes by.  In some contexts, they may already be
operational.  Like us, Occupy is allowed to be a baby for a limited
period of time only, then it must grow up or else.

> And a question for Julio:  I had the impression URPE was discouraging
> economists from coming to camp this year -- in order to leave space for Occupy
> folks.  Did I have the wrong impression?

I take it at face value that URPE is asking people to participate in
the summer conference.   Yes, there is finite space in the camp.  But
the allocation of space will be handled as fairly as humanly possible.
 It's a great chance to meet in a very relaxed setting, child
friendly, etc.  Hope to see you there, Gene -- and everyone else for
that matter.

Before I let this go, I will just voice something that has been in my
head as of late.  This may all be a commonplace here.  Or it may sound
as a bunch of vague generalities.  They are.  But I believe worth
repeating.  IMO, the most important lessons that one can derive from
the heroic and tragic history of socialism (broadly understood) are
these:

(1) The struggle of the direct producers, the workers, is the engine
of social change.  It is all about people changing the conditions in
which they work and lead their lives.  This means that *process* (or
collective agency, as opposed to structure or apparent results) is
hugely important.  In practical response to concrete needs, people
need to talk, communicate, share actions, ideas, and goals.  The
specific mechanisms that they may use for all that, their
organizations, all that stuff is important but secondary; it can be
refitted or discarded if need be.

Corollary: anarchism, terrorism, individual tantrums are diversions.
Another corollary: Criticize the limitations of the existing
structures, but don't stop there: build the new ones that will replace
the old ones.  Criticize by doing.  Show how something doesn't work by
building the thing that does work!

(2) Theorizing matters, theorizing that takes nothing for granted,
leaves nothing unquestioned.  That is how a shared meaningful purpose
is defined and sharpened.  This also means that full certainty is
excluded, that we must abide by the best norms of scientific inquiry
(which is much like any other social process, contingent and all),
etc.  No social science, no socialism.

The big contradiction is apparent at this point: How can (1) and (2)
be combined?  Because they must be combined.  That is the challenge of
the left, for as long as one exists.

(3) For the time being, the highest form of the workers' struggle is
the political struggle -- the struggle to rule, to build up and wield
political power, to use it as a lever to restructure social life -- at
the exclusion of the 1% or imposing on them taxing conditions.

(4) There is much to learn from the history of socialism.  We need to
ensure that the corpus of ideas and reflections on what happened are
transmitted, that new generations of fighters appropriate all that
critically.  We cannot and should not try to run away from that
legacy.  Own it, critically.  Do not try to reinvent the wheel.

A final and (IMO) nontrivial reflection here.  I was just in Mexico
City for a few days.  I talked to leftists from various backgrounds.
Very few coincidences among them.  Things are coming to a head,
politically.  Whoever wins will run some version of the stuff that the
rest of Latin America is doing.  AMLO is the bigger promise.  Anyway,
they coincided on one thing: Twitter and Facebook are genius!  Cubans
think so too, as they recently call Twitter "an absolutely
revolutionary web [technology] that seems to have given voice to
society."

http://www.cubadebate.cu/noticias/2012/06/07/%C2%BFquien-escribio-el-primer-tweet/

Society has a voice now, in Twitter.  I am sure everyone on PEN-L
shares the same view.  :-)

A final final thing: Nathan Tankus, a member of these lists who lowers
our average age significantly, is on the radio.  Here:

http://fsrn.org/audio/activists-call-stricter-sec-enforcement-and-criminal-investigation-jp-morgan-chase/10405

Way to go, Nathan!  Jamie Dimon belongs in jail.
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