"Jim Devine" <[email protected]> wrote: 

> <[email protected]> wrote: 
> > I think the plan to have high government debt is just a way for the wealthy 
> > to have another way to get surplus value from workers who pay taxes which 
> > result in payment to bond holders. 

> How does this work? the way I can see it is if the government cuts 
> programs that help the working class while raising taxes on the 
> working class in order to pay the interest on the debt. That seems to 
> be the trend. 


A high income person would rather buy bonds than pay taxes. IIRC, high 
income/wealth individuals own a considerable portion of US debt. 

> It's true that the existence of the government's debt usually leads to 
> a redistribution upward, to the interest-earners. It also makes 
> government officials more dependent on the kindness of _rentiers_ (or 
> at least think that they are so). A socialist government (under 
> capitalism) wouldn't run significant deficits and pile up debts, 
> except perhaps to invest in infrastructure and the like. 

A big improvement in the government budget deficit has to come from a cut in 
defense spending. 


A socialist government on both a federal, state, and local basis would probably 
buy corporations by issuing bonds. 

> It's true that interest rates are likely going to rise in the future 
> (since they're so low now) but to some extent the government has 
> locked in low rates by issuing and selling long-term bonds. I'll have 
> to check how much they've done that, but if they're smart this is the 
> strategy they have followed. 


Federal debt mostly consists of bills, notes, bonds, and TIF securities. The 
average maturity is about 5 years. Bonds are issued with a maturity greater 
than 10 years, but only comprise 11% of the debt. 


-- 
Ron 

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