It goes both ways: the US uses Israel and Israel uses the US, while
the DP uses the Zionist lobbies and those lobbies use the DP.

Of course, the US plays the dominant role in the relationship with
Israel, since the US is the dominant imperial power. It's hard to tell
whether the DP is dominant or not: the Israel lobbies pit the GOP
against the DP, to some extent dividing and ruling.

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Carrol Cox <[email protected]> wrote:
> I agree with Doug's addition or amendment. U.S. policy would be the same if
> there were no Zionist lobby. The lobby is merely one of the voices enabling
> that policy.
>
> The DP does not grovel before the lobby; it _uses_ the lobby for its own
> purposes.
>
> Carrol
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:pen-l-
>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Doug Henwood
>> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 9:23 PM
>> To: Progressive Economics
>> Subject: Re: [Pen-l] Why Do Senators Boxer and Wyden Want to Bomb Iran?
>>
>>
>> On Mar 3, 2013, at 10:12 PM, Michael Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Well, geez, Robert, whaddya expect? They're Democrats. Blaming
>> > them for grovelling to the Israel lobby is like blaming a slug
>> > for being slimy.
>>
>> They don't need the Zionist lobby to tell them that bombing is fun.
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