On 2013-03-10, at 9:51 AM, Michael Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

> (Why, I wonder parenthetically, do all responses 
> on this list have to be couched in a peevish, 
> reproachful tone?)
> 
> On Sat, 9 Mar 2013 22:16:46 -0700
> Marv Gandall <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> in practice, you support the rights won in past struggles
> 
> [excellent list of things I support snipped]
> 
> Sure I support these things, but not qua 'rights'...

It wasn't my intention to be peevish or reproachful, but to remind you that the 
democratic rights (or whatever else you wish to call them) which you dismiss in 
theory, you strongly support in practice. That's all to the good, and better 
than the other way round - as in the case, for example, of those who support 
self-determination for national minorities everywhere except in their own 
backyard. It's your contradiction to wrestle with, but at least it's a harmless 
one, and I think we can agree that what's decisive is the answer to the 
refrain: 

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=msEYGql0drc&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DmsEYGql0drc
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