The fourth quadrant is the decisive one.

> Tom Walker wrote:
>
>  You're being reasonable, Max. Not that there is anything wrong with that. But
> what I'm thinking of is not a single pole of opposites but a system of
> coordinates in which there two axes -- faith/blasphemy and reason/unreason,
> 
>  If I am located in the quadrant bounded by faith and reason and look across
> at someone in the adjoining quadrant, it is crucial (no pun intended) to know
> -- or at least surmise -- whether the adjoining quadrant is the one bound by
> faith and unreason (yokels) or the one bounded by reason and blasphemy
> (courtiers).
> 
>  We concede a great advantage to our opponents when we assume they are yokels
> when in fact they are courtiers!
>
>  On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Max Sawicky wrote:
>    > >    I'd go further and consider the net interest paid to GDP ratio, if
>    > > we're in this context.
> > 
> >    Then there is the uber-Keynes view, to which I've become increasingly
> > sympathetic, that these ratios don't matter at all. (Note Japan's debt/GDP
> > ratio is 2.3 (230%) and while they have not been the greatest economy they
> > are not blowing up.)
> > 
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