Here's a Danish perspective. At Copenhagen Business School, actually a university of nearly 18000 students, we have a relatively small number of PhD students. One reason is that they are very expensive. PhD students are researchers, fully paid for three full years. They get a salary, which is equivalent to assistant professors, and get all the other benefits as any one else legally living in Denmark, 6 weeks of paid vacation, free healthcare, among other things. What this does is limit the number of PhDs, which is not good for departments and centers for research and at the same time it does not flood the post PhD market, which is quite tough in Europe. One solution is to reduce the PhD salaries and increase enrollment. Believe me I know how my PhD student lives in Copenhagen and when I look back how I lived as one in the US in the 1980s.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Anthony P. D'Costa, Professor of Contemporary Indian Studies University of Melbourne *KOREA CONFERENCE April 18-19* *http://tinyurl.com/cwrxcg4* *TRANSFORMATION AND DEVELOPMENT (INDIA AND CHINA) http://ukcatalogue.oup.com/product/9780198082286.do#.UI5Wzmc2dI0* *GLOBALIZATION AND ECONOMIC NATIONALISM IN ASIA*** *http://www.oup.com/localecatalogue/cls_academic/?i=9780199646210 **A NEW INDIA?* *http://www.anthempress.com/pdf/9780857285041.pdf* *NEW ASIAN INNOVATION DYNAMICS* http://www.palgrave.com/products/title.aspx?pid=295354 http://uk.cbs.dk/arc xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 5:31 PM, nathan tankus < [email protected]> wrote: > Julio: that is a very simplistic (dare I say undialectical?) view of > education in America. No one here is arguing against the benefits of > being an intellectual or becoming educated. what is being argued is > the problems associated with getting a doctorate. Under our current > societal arrangements, it's simply impossible to support everyone > getting a doctorate, let alone everyone getting a job in the field > they get their doctorate. universities are further incentivized to > expand PhD programs to sizes that are unsupportable by the academic > labor market in order to reduce their own labor costs. This is a > problem that needs to be dealt with and means that for those who enjoy > a discipline intellectually, pursuing a PhD might not be a great idea. > The point however, is not simply for more people to abstain from > getting graduate degrees. the point is to restructure this system so > that it can support more intellectual advancement and puts people in > less precarious positions. Of course the final goal is to redistribute > and reorganize work. > > There is nothing "anti-intellectual" in that position. > > -- > -Nathan Tankus > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > pen-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l > --
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