Julio, I think Jurriaan is responding to a PEN-L post from Angelus Novus 
containing a link to a lecture by Milios on the topic in the subject heading.  
I haven't contributed to this thread, but for what it's worth, I was tempted to 
do so by the same passage in the lecture that Jurriaan cites (and for pretty 
much the same reason: the claim in the first sentence of the cited passage is 
not supported, and furthermore seems inconsistent with Marx's treatment of 
commodity values in Capital V.I).  I didn't post anything because I figured 
this was a discussion to have with Milios directly, but the issue is certainly 
relevant to PEN-L interests, and courtesy of the link provided by A.N., 
everybody here can access the argument in question. So the context was 
provided.  I guess that leaves the question of whether it's comradely or 
considerate to discuss the details of somebody's lecture in their absence, 
given that the lecture is available online.

Gil


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To: Progressive Economics
Subject: [Pen-l] Marx's Monetary Theory of Value

Jurriaan wrote:

> According to John Milios,
>
> "Marx shows that the products of labour become values because they are 
> produced
within the framework of the capital relation. Further, that value necessarily 
manifests itself in the form of money."

I'm not sure, but you seem to be having an argument with somebody on some other 
list.  It is not very productive (let alone comradely or plain considerate) to 
bring a discussion from list A to list B, where context is absent and the 
people you're arguing with have no chance to reply.
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