"Julio Huato" <[email protected]> wrote: 

> On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:29 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: 

> > The first thing to note is that y is actually a function of time and should 
> > be denoted as y(t). 

> Yes, y is a function of many variables. I meant that to be implicit. 

I meant that y should be considered a set of multiple variables. 

> By the way, "time" t is usually a catch-all term for other variables. 

I don't see how "time" t is a catch-all term for other variables. Time is 
a philosophical primitive that should mean the same to all of us. 

> > IMHO, society is sufficiently complex in the real world that y(t) will 
> > never 
> > be identical for two different times. 

> Insofar as you keep calling it society (and not something else), it 
> seems as if you recognize it before and after as the same thing, 
> except that somehow different. A difference or change when the 
> quality (society) is maintained is called "quantitative," meaning that 
> it does not entail the disappearance of society, its replacement by 
> some non-society. 

A society is just a part of the universe that is of interest to us which 
means that it is made up of people. 

> > What we are doing is abstracting society y(t) to a simplified model (in our 
> > case 
> > to Marx's labor theory of value (LTV)). In the case of environmentalists 
> > they can abstract to the amount of pollutants and natural resources. 

> Yes, I did not mean that y was a simple object. Mathematically, you 
> can make y as complex as you wish. Still, the complexity of actual 
> societies will be greater. 

Yes we can construct more complex models of society, but a 
simple model may be all that we need. 

-- 
Ron 

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