There's a grain of truth in even facetious reductio ad absurdum. So what? I
hold out for slightly more than a grain and am not disappointed.


On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Carrol Cox <[email protected]> wrote:

> So most of the human species lives under conditions as bad as or worse
> than the current population of Bangladesh? Say 10% live in protected
> enclaves, air-conditioned, and with immense dikes around London, New York,
> a handful of other such sites. The remaining 90%, no matter how miserable,
> should be able to produce enough for bare survival for themselves plus the
> needed luxury for the remaining 10%. The economy is working then; the
> market is surviving.
>
> What's wrong with this?
>
> Coal will last a few centuries, though the pollution and heat will
> increase rapidly. So what? TINA, the 10% will say -- and the 90% may not be
> able to get together at the same time and place.
>
> All is well. After a few centuries more the Ten Percent can go out with a
> glorious bang. All is well.
>
> Carrol
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Eubulides
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 10:06 PM
> To: Progressive Economics
> Subject: Re: [Pen-l] Links to Dean Baker & Krugman on Secular Stagnation
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Eugene Coyle <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I should have put these links in my earlier post so you could follow
> what I was
> > addressing.
> >
> > Krugman opened the discussion with this, about the weirdness of the
> present economy:
> >
> >
> http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/25/bubbles-regulation-and-secular-stagnation/
> >
> > Dean Baker responded with this:
> >
> http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/krugman-on-bubbles-and-secular-stagnation
> >
> > And Krugman responded with this:  http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com
> >
> > And I wanted to scream.
> >
> > Gene
>
> ======================
>
> Happy screaming:
>
>
> http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/25/the-cost-of-climate-change/
>
> How much will climate change cost?
>
> Later this week the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change will
> issue its fourth report, aggregating what the latest science tells us
> about how man-made greenhouse-gas emissions are warming the
> environment.
>
> It is likely to present a dire picture. “The scientific evidence for
> anthropogenic climate change has strengthened year by year,” said Qin
> Dahe, a climatologist at the Chinese Academy of Sciences who is
> co-chairman of the working group preparing the panel’s report. The
> accumulating evidence, he said, leaves “fewer uncertainties about the
> serious consequences of inaction.”
>
> Nonetheless, the report will probably do little to address the most
> fundamental question: how much should we spend on prevention? The best
> answer, still, is that nobody has any idea. What’s more, science and
> economics may have no better answer to provide.
>
> Consider my recent column about the Obama administration’s estimates
> of how much we should pay to slow global warming. It ran into a storm
> of criticism.
>
> The column focused mostly on different assumptions of how much current
> spending was needed to pay for environmental damage in the distant
> future. The critique, however, zeroed in on the estimates of such
> future costs.
>
> Such estimates, my critics said, were meaningless.
>
> [snip]
>
>
> How useful were the clergy after the plague?
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Tom Walker (Sandwichman)
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