Marx never wrote the 15 galley sheets he famously calculated necessary for an 
expose of Hegel's method, and it seems strange he left  the task to Engels, who 
did not have Marx's professional background in philosophy. 

The notion of dialectics seems often to reduce to claiming something turns into 
its opposite. I agree with Carrol that there is a danger in emphasising the 
unintended good consequences of capitalism, as in the Manifesto.  Marx learned 
from India not to accept the progressivist sales pitch of capitalism:  Poor 
India! They intend to make an Ireland of you ! "

 A continuation of the economics, politics and culture of capitalism, of the 
muck of ages, could lead not to its opposite in communism but to the 
destruction of the human race.  This can only be averted by conscious 
rejection, not by mechanical progress.


 I see a foresight of this in Plato's concept of dialectic in the Symposium; 
the finite is fulfilled in the infinite, getting in giving, desire in love.

– JD





On Tuesday, 22 October 2013, 1:16, Carrol Cox <[email protected]> wrote:
 

>The Manifesto is full of praise for the positive consequences of capitalist
>"estrangement," i.e. for the positive consequences of greed for "money"
>understood in Hegelian terms as "estrangement."
>
>I think this should read "positive _possibilities" opened up by the horror
>of capitalism.
>
>It is more and more unlikely that these possibilities will be realized; that
>is up to human struggle, and there is no God to assure success.  Certainly
>they do not flow automatically from capitalism.
>
>Carrol
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