Coming at this from a different perspective:

If a progressive alternative to the market economy we have now is to come into 
being, progressive economists have to find a way for the public to want one.  
Right now the public seems to want, and I believe does want, "a better life for 
my children."  But what that is deeply understand to be is a higher income than 
they currently have, thus more work, more economic growth (growth in GDP), etc. 
 Until the public has an opportunity to visualize a different future, future 
capitalism will continue to fail to provide the dremed-of goal, while 
continuing the apparition that it is just there, in the soon-to-be future.  
        What progressive economists must provide is a path to Visualizing a 
different future.  I see that as happening through a repeated shortening of 
working hours, till wants and aspirations can include something beyond 
consumption that can never deliver a better life.  That is different than 
describing -- rather than bringing into being -- a planned economy.
Nobelist Wassily Leontief used Input-Output economics as a planning method and 
advocated cutting working hours (along with, for those working, supplemented 
income from not-clearly-specified sources).  Meanwhile, a discussion about 
cutting working hours gets either no response from most economists, even Larry 
Summers, or the claim that it is utopian.

Gene

On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:46 AM, William Cockshott wrote:

> I could scarcely disagree more.
> The level of agricultural production achievable under feudal social relations 
> would mean the starvation of a large part of the world population to say 
> nothing about the appalling social oppression it would involve.
> Discussion of planned economy is not a side issue. If one is to propose a 
> progressive alternative to the market economy we have now, it is the only 
> viable alternative. Right wing economics have spent 40 years or more 
> rubbishing the whole idea for very clear political motives. If progressive 
> economists do not defend it, then we concede Thatcher's claim 'There Is No 
> Alternative'.
> 
> Paul Cockshott
> School of Computer Science
> University of Glasgow
> http://glasgow.academia.edu/paulcockshott
> http://www.gla.ac.uk/schools/computing/staff/williamcockshott/#tabs=0
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carrol Cox
> Sent: 21 January 2014 00:08
> To: 'Progressive Economics'
> Subject: Re: [Pen-l] Why Marxists consider a planned economy in accord with 
> human nature
> 
> Arguments for or against a "planned economy" are politically irrelevant.
> They are merely so much pedantry.
> 
> Capitalism is plunging us (has plunged us) into barbarism. A return to 
> feudalism would be vastly preferable from the point of view of human survival.
> 
> We need to destroy capitalism, struggling to achieve a new democracy. We 
> can't lay down the law of what that democracy can or will or should doi.
> 
> Carrol
> 
> "Marxists have no crystal ball."
>               Mao
> 
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