> 
> On Mar 23, 2014, at 10:15 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
>>  "Eubulides" <[email protected]>
>> 
>> > Could you give us some evidence of how an ism, which is not an agent, can 
>> > reject reason and science?
>> 
>> There is racism and plenty of religions that do so as part of their 
>> principles. I think that postmodernism does essentially that.
>> 
>> > Do you you have an indefeasible theory of rationality as it pertains to a 
>> > way of cognizing that is constitutive of science?
>> 
>> I don't claim to be able to identify all those theories that claim to use 
>> the scientific method, but don't. Those theories are called pseudosciences 
>> and critical thinking skills are needed to expose their fallacies. 
>> 
>> > Additionally, could you give us an actual, democratically negotiated, 
>> > parsing of the claimed boundary between the economy and that in society 
>> > which is not the economy?
>> 
>> Marx uses the criteria of commodities (products and services) that are sold. 
>> His theory could be expanded to cover other things in the economy such as 
>> pollution.
>> 
>> > Inquiring minds want to know.
>> 
>> Do you have a list of those inquiring minds?
>> 
>> Is there a need to discuss philosophical issues?
>> 
>> -- 
>>    Ron
> 
> ==========
> 
> Religions are not agents, either.
> 
> I’ll lower my expectations; can you point me to one text that is by a 
> self-identifying postmodernist that rejects science and rationality, the 
> author of which has had any sort of impact on contemporary societies 
> scientific research programs? Then we could perhaps have a discussion about 
> how postmodernism has done more to harm science and rationality than, say, 
> legislators in the congresses and parliaments of the world?
> 
> There are all too few fallacy-free theories created by humans; sorry to 
> disappoint. One could argue it’s a fallacy to be desirous of a fallacy-free 
> theory or to hold that up as an a priori [a problematic term if ever there 
> was one] norm of rationality.
> 
> I do have a list; it’s too big to share on pen-l.
> 
> There will always be a need to philosophize; to paraphrase Keynes, we’re all 
> too often unwitting slaves of defunct philosophers, too. Like you and 
> everyone else on this list, I’m not into slavery.
> 
> E.
> 

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