"Eubulides" <[email protected]> wrote: 


> Religions are not agents, either. 

Religions are as much agents as a virus is. 

>I’ll lower my expectations; can you point me to one text that is by a 
>self-identifying postmodernist that rejects science and rationality, the 
>author of which has had any sort of impact on contemporary societies 
>scientific research programs? 

Richard Dawkins has already done the work for me in 
http://www.physics.nyu.edu/faculty/sokal/dawkins.html 

> Then we could perhaps have a discussion about how postmodernism has done more 
> to harm science and rationality than, say, legislators in the congresses and 
> parliaments of the world? 

That's not necessary. Just ignore the postmodernist writers. 

> There are all too few fallacy-free theories created by humans; sorry to 
> disappoint. One could argue it’s a fallacy to be desirous of a fallacy-free 
> theory or to hold that up as an a priori [a problematic term if ever there 
> was one] norm of rationality. 

It's in the nature of scientific theories to not be able to establish their 
truth. 

> I do have a list; it’s too big to share on pen-l. 

Is the list empty? 

> There will always be a need to philosophize; to paraphrase Keynes, we’re all 
> too often unwitting slaves of defunct philosophers, too. Like you and 
> everyone else on this list, I’m not into slavery. 

Does somebody want to start a thread on philosophy including DM? As Karl says 
(I haven't checked on this): 
"Philosophy is to the real world as masturbation is to sex" 
-- 
Ron 






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