On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 9:07 PM, hari kumar <[email protected]> wrote:

> However on the issue of private vs profit motives in provision of health
> care under capitalist societies: Sorry, but I found the comments made by
> some, somewhat superficial.
> (1) Universal health care - as a short hand term for systems of health
> care funded by a state - were disparaged by some.  This is short sighted
> for socialists, in my view, as it ignores: - access being 'free' at point
> of entry (Well - not "free" - funded by more 'progressive' tax bases) than
> pertaining in the USA now; provides much lower 'administrative costs' (eg
> Himmelstein DU et al: 'A comparison of Hospital Admin. costs in 8 nations:
> US costs exceed all other by Far'; Health Affairs; Sep 2014; 33:); effects
> on reduction of inequitable distribution of services.
> (2) As Ragu tries to make - but the connection is unclear - an equation of
> non-profit with 'universal' health care systems. Systematic reviews have
> shown clearly the benefits in real health outcomes (eg dialysis services
> availability).
>



I am afraid I am finding it difficult to understand what you are trying to
say here. If you are saying that "universal health care" is a good short
hand term for "state-funded health care", I must ask why? Why not just say
"state-funded health care" instead?

That said, any difference between "universal" and "state-funded" seems
academic. Does there exist a universal health care system anywhere in the
world that is not state-funded? Did anyone argue that it is possible to
have universal health-care without it being state-funded?

I am sorry but it seems to me that you are arguing with a strawman. Or
maybe I misunderstood what you said.
-raghu.
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