On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Joseph Green <[email protected]> wrote:
> The state may spend huge amounts on health care without the system being > universal. Conversely, some plans envision universal compulsion to take > part > in private insurance (although the state may still have to spend huge > amounts > on health care) and self-insurance. It's important to distinguish between > the > various "universal" plans. It's make a big difference to the outcome > whether > one is trying to rely on private insurance, private health research, > private > health supplies, etc. or has a single-payer system, or a national health > service, or some other type of health care. It affects whether the system > really is universal, what type of treatments are given, whether there is a > two-tier system, and much more, including the type and accuracy of medical > research. Whether health care - or various parts of it - are done for > profit > or not, affects whether there is overmedication, whether certain treatments > are neglected, etc. (However, it should be noted that by now capitalists > have > been able to hide medicine for profit behind many "non-profit" veneers.) > So > I agree with Hari Kumar that it doesn't make sense for socialists to hide > the > type of "universal" plan being talked out. > Can I agree completely with everything you have said above while remaining confused about what the controversy is about (:-)? I have not seen anyone on PEN-L dispute any of the above. I think perhaps, you (and Hari Kumar) interpreted something I (or someone else) wrote as suggesting that "universal" health-care is equivalent to single-payer or something like that. If so, I certainly did not intend so suggest any such thing. Btw your summary at http://communistvoice.org/40cCompare.html is very informative and useful - thanks! -raghu. > As I mentioned previously, I outlined some of the differences in a some > articles in 2007. I think if you examined them, you might see some of the > issues involved. See > http://communistvoice.org/40cChart.html > for a chart comparing different types of supposedly universal plans, and > see > the article at http://communistvoice.org/40cCompare.html > "What would socialist health care be like?" for an explanation of the > chart. > > > _______________________________________________ > pen-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l >
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