I had wanted to respond to this thread immediately, but I was caught up,
quite literally, in the  Ward Churchill thread.  EWU had
invited him to speak here in April, but after Hamilton College, our
President dis-invited him, our faculty Senate voted unanimously to
re-invite him, Bill O'Reilly targeted the leadership of the Senate and we
have all been dealing with multiple death threats each day.  No that the
threats are becoming old hat, I can get back to Social Security.

At the risk of entering the discussion after all interest has past, I will
offer an explanation of what the shift from "wage indexing" to "price
indexing" that Bush is proposing means.  For those who don't want to plow
thru the long version, the short version is that it has absolutely nothing
to do with changing an "index" and everything to do with an outright cut in
benefits.  It is being dressed up as an "index" problem to try to hide what
is going on.  The end result is a reduction in benefits of about 54 percent
fro a worker who is 20 today and will retire at age 70.

To see how this works, we need to work backward from private sector
pensions to Social Security (which is always the best place to start when
analyzing Social Security).

Lets start with the BEST POSSIBLE defined benefit pension, on that is index
for inflation.  At retirement the benefit will be:
B = a * Wf * S,  the final wage times the years of service times a
"generosity factor."  What this does is to peg the benefit to the final
level of productivity reached by the worker.  If the benefit is indexed for
inflation, the benefit will not erode with inflation, BUT as the standard
of living of the rest of the population rises with productivity, the
standard of living of the retiree will slowly fall further and further
behind.  So in the best possible scenario, retirees fall behind the rest of
society.

If this pension is not indexed for inflation, then as prices rise, the
retiree's real standard of living will actually fall below what it was in
the year they retired.  This is true of the majority of private sector
defined benefit pensions today.

Social Security benefits are calculated the same way, but instead of using
the final year's wage, it uses an average of the wage over the highest 35
years of the working life!  As a result, the retiree starts out at a
standard of living that reflects the average standard of living over the
past 35 years.  This is why Social Security benefits by themselves cannot
provide a decent retirement, even for higher wage workers.  The only good
thing is that this low level of benefits will not erode with inflation, but
it will fall further behind as the average standard of living rises.

So we now finally get to the issue of the "Wage index" vs the "price
index".  We compare the buying power of the benefit based on actually wages
with the buying power of the dollar based on the CPI.  Since real wages
tend to rise with productivity, the benefit will tend to be higher than the
CPI.  The difference is the productivity index.  What Bush is proposing is
that once the benefit is calculated, using the actually wages the worker
received, the benefit will then be reduced by the productivity index.

If a worker saw their real wages rise at exactly the average rate of real
wage increase, this process would freeze their standard of living in
retirement at the same level they had IN THE VERY FIRST JOB THEY TOOK AT 20
YEARS OF AGE!!  If their wages grew slower than average, their standard of
living would be reduced below that amount.

So the bottom line is, something that is made to sound like an innocuous
change in the index used, would utterly destroy the ability of Social
Security to provide even the most basic level of retirement benefits.


At 08:02 PM 2/14/2005, you wrote:
There is a wage index used -- don't ask me how it's
calculated -- and only for a few years in the late
70s did it rise more slowly than prices.  There is
no dispute that a switch to price indexing would
mean an enormous benefit cut.

mbs





There has been a big brohaha lately about the Bushit proposal to change the
indexing of social security benefits, from indexing them to wages (the
present system) to indexing them to prices.  There seems to be universal
agreement, both among people who are for the change and people who are
against it, that this will lower benefits, because wages rise faster than
inflation.

But if real wages have fallen over the last 30 years, doesn't that mean by
definition that prices rose faster than wages -- and that if benefits had
been pegged to prices, the last 30 years, they would have risen faster too?

Michael

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