Charles Brown wrote:
I think Yoshie is right on this one. "West" is the West's name for itself:
"Western Civilization",  "the West in the Cold War", etc.
 I think Lou doth protest too much; he is uncomfortable because of the truth
in Yoshie's criticism/critique.

Her critique is based on cheap demagogy, and poorly applied at that.
As I said before, it is an attempt to tip the scales in favor of one
side in a debate. The "Marxist-Leninist" left is skilled in this, but
uses different terminology--"petty bourgeois" being the favorite. But
it amounts to the same thing. Who wants to be labeled "petty
bourgeoisie"? It conjures up images of epicene college professors
with subscriptions to the Nation Magazine who send money in to
Amnesty International and drive Volvos. They are second cousins to
the stereotypical Blue State voter. "Western Leftist" is simply a new
term for what amounts to the same thing.

When I broke with "Marxism-Leninism", it was partially an attempt to
get away from stereotypical thinking of this sort. I was afraid to
openly question the SWP's "turn to industry" in 1978 out of fear of
being labeled "petty bourgeois". I'll be damned if I soft pedal my
criticisms of Lula, Ahmadinejad, Thabo Mbeki, Hu Jintao or some other
skunk for fear of being called a "Western Leftist".

I absolutely hate group-think. The idea that people like Yoshie (or
Walter Lippmann on Marxmail) can set themselves up as emissaries of
the worldwide revolutionary movement (which mainly consists of equal
portions of ethanol and the Quran, it would seem) reminds me too much
of Cominternism. Instead of invoking the Vatican, CP'ers used to
invoke the Kremlin. What position do we take on putting
Japanese-Americans into internment camps in WWII? I guess we support
it if Stalin does. This is not Marxism. It is sycophancy.

As to Yoshie not including herself in it, uhhhhh, you have noticed that she
is from Japan , haven't you ? Shhhhh. How white of you to demand that Yoshie
include herself as white. This is getting embarrassing.

You didn't get my reference to Yoshie's virtual flight from the Evil,
Occidental Empire. Through her assiduous cherry-picking of Jstor
articles, she has been metamorphosized  into an Iranian. I would say
something along the lines of what George Galloway said about
Christopher Hitchens and the insect world, but I am too polite for that.

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