Angelus:
How does one abolish a global system?!  The Cuban
revolution might be a historical manifestation of
anti-capitalist struggle, but the statement "Cuba
abolished capitalism" is exactly the sort of problem
with is/is-not thinking.

The same way that feudalism was abolished in a number of countries in
Europe over about a century and a half. Capitalism might be a global
system, but it does not operate in Cuba. That is until recently and
mostly under control of the government. I understand that you are
some kind of advocate of communism or something. I have encountered
ideas like yours on the aut-op-sy mailing list and usually in the
context of discussions of obscure Italian autonomists. You are of
course welcome to your own take on things even though they really
have very little in common with Marx, who hailed the Paris Commune
with all its limitations.

Class is a secondary, maybe even tertiary question.
Expropriating the "capitalists" is all good, but
supressing the law of value would seem to be more
central.

I have no idea what you mean by "the law of value". Even if every
country in the world had a Cuban type system, there would still be
"value creation" if you mean this in terms of the circulation of
money, wages, profits and losses in state-owned firms, etc. I am not
interested in philosophical defenses of a classless society. I was
first exposed to this when I read Socialist Labor Party material in
the late 1950s and find it both sterile and sectarian. You of course
are welcome to it.

Nothing against empirical research.  But you don't
necessarily need Marx for that (I'm sorry if that
sounds condescending, I mean it as neutral as
possible).

I am not talking about "empirical research". I am talking about
historical materialism. I have read your posts on Doug's list and
they consist of nothing but vaporous declarations on the need to
transcend the law of value. Are you allergic to facts?

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