--- Louis Proyect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Don't waste my time with interrogations. If you have
> your own ideas,
> put them forward.

I think I am asking fair questions.  I think the
anti-capitalist process in Venezuela is far more
dynamic than currently in Cuba, especially in terms of
popular participation.  I would not call either
society communist.  You refer to the latter as a
non-capitalist social formation, and the former as
not.  I think it is fair to ask why you do so, on the
basis of what criteria.

> >In other words, there would still be capitalism?
>
> Do me a favor, Mr. Angelus. Don't waste my time. I
> am not interested
> in answering your questions

If you feel I am wasting your time, feel free to
ignore me.  I am *not* trolling, and I think it is a
very fair question.  Your statement that "there would
still be value creation if you mean this in terms of
the circulation of money, wages, profits and losses in
state-owned firms, etc." gets to the heart of the
matter.  I can understand if you do not want to get
into a back and forth about quoting Marx and other
appeals to authority.  But given that for Marx, value,
money, wages, profits, are essential categories of
capitalism, you obviously have very different criteria
for differentiating between capitalist and
non-capitalist societies.  Stop taking it as a
personal insult just because somebody asks you to
clarify what you mean.




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