On 6/26/07, Michael Perelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

...If he were to use the list as a way to barrage us with his politics, such 
that long
threads would revolve around him.  Some of us would respond to him, but nobody 
but
David would really be interested in his position and the threads would degrade 
into
fairly predictable exchanges

Then it would be relatively easy for someone in dissent of another's
opinion to 'degrade' the thread into 'predictable exchanges' on
purpose to suppress interest or cause the list members to don their
flame-retardant underwear.

That's a working definition of a "TROLL'.

It's an ugly tactic that at least one poster to [pen-l] is quite accustomed.


"The main reason Chinese officials and scholars do not talk about
communism is that hardly anybody really believes that Marxism should
provide guidelines for thinking about China's political future," he
wrote. "The ideology has been so discredited by its misuses that it
has lost almost all legitimacy in society…. To the extent there's a
need for a moral foundation for political rule in China, it almost
certainly won't come from Karl Marx."
--Daniel A. Bell, Political Science Professor, Tsinghua University Beijing

LA Times:
Marx loses currency in new China
Teaching socialism is mandatory, but learning it is monotonous for
today's students, who revere money more than Mao.
By Mitchell Landsberg, Times Staff Writer
June 26, 2007
<http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/columnone/la-fg-marx26jun26,1,2565437.story>

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