On Jan 28, 2008 9:06 AM, Charles Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> CB: If they produce use-value, then they produce exchange-value.
> Use-values are the thing in which exchange-value exists.  If they
> produce exchange-value , then they can be exploited out of
> surplus-value.
>
> The use-value a security guard produces is the absence of having some
> means of production or commodities stolen, that is preservation of
> possession, preservation of appropriation of the commodities and
> therefore preservation of surplus value for the capitalist.
> Appropriation or possession of the commodities is just as much a
> necessary condition for expropriation or exploitation of surplus value
> as the labor producing the value.
>



Wow this is a bit overwhelming.

Jim, Louis, Thanks for the correction: I should have said
"surplus-value" instead of "use-value".

re: security guards there is still a difference between a mall
security guard who stops shop-lifters and a security guard who keeps
trespassers out of a gated community. The second kind of security
guard labor is more similar to that of a house-maid.
-raghu.

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