First time I have encountered a comedian who quotes Heraclitus. Cheers, Ken Hanly
--- Shane Mage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 20, 2008, at 9:12 PM, ken hanly wrote: > > > > > Neither Vietnam China nor Venezuela are > socialist. > > Socialism involves the socialisation of the means > of > > production, distribution, and exchange, and > production > > based on need not profit. > > None of those countries have achieved this. > Both > > Vietnam and China have been moving away from such > a > > system through extensive privatisation and > changing > > toward a market system based on profit and > integrating > > into the global capitalist market. They also both > have > > increasing foreign investment. Venezuela at best > is > > moving towards a socialist system. What follows > > is short description of China's change towards > > capitalism. What is wrong with it? > > > > http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-146354456.html > > > > The Irreversible Emergence of a Capitalist System > > > What is wrong with it is that it describes the > emergence and flourishing > of Chinese capitalism in its present form as a > movement *away from* > socialism. It is the opposite--a movement from a > backward bureaucratic > state capitalism, which reflected the semi-feudal > and dependent colonial > structures inherited by the CCP, towards a modern, > globalized capitalism > in which the proletariat is growing by leaps and > bounds, in numbers, > strength, and confidence. It is then, within the > capitalist mode of > production, an enormous step *toward* [the > possibility of] socialism. > > Shane Mage > > "Thunderbolt steers all things...it consents and > does not consent to > be called Zeus." > > Herakleitos of Ephesos > Blog: http://kenthink7.blogspot.com/index.html Blog: http://kencan7.blogspot.com/index.html
