CB:  I basically agree too. Whenever we have these left "who lost China?" 
debates, I think,  on Marxist fundamentals, there was not enough
capitalism in pre-revolutionary China to "make" socialism right away.
China didn't take the name "Socialist", but "Peoples's" Republic , I
thought for this reason.  There was a slogan regarding " the road to
socialism by passing capitalism". Experience taught that it was not
possible to bypass capitalism in getting to socialism, in the world as
it is, with imperialism still dominate, and willing to commit
super-genocides to destroy countries trying to avoid capitalism, etc.
 
JG: Charles, this is just ex post facto nonsense, archly geared to validate
your embrace of the CCP's current orientation. I don't even know where
or how to begin. First of all, yes, in the early years of the PRC (1949-1955) 
the CCP permitted small landholders and private capitalists to coexist 
side by side with state enterprise, but this was done not only in the 
name of building the productive forces but also in the name of building 
the CCP's political authority, that is to lay the groundwork for a rapid 
transition to communism. As you surely know but deliberately occlude, 
by 1955, with Mao as the prime mover, a decisive move was made to 
advance toward communism with the compensated expropriation of 
private industry and the headlong rush from peasant cooperatives to 
rural communes. You can doubt both his wisdom and his sincerity, but 
one of Mao's justifications for so doing was his belief that there was 
an inherent connection between ideological mobilization and economic 
productivity... that is, that communism cannot be defined alone by the 
advancement of the productive forces, and that in any event it is sheer 
dogma to equate the building of productive forces with the capitalist 
harnessing of productive forces. And this of course unleashed 20 years 
of factional warfare that became so severe that for a short period of 
time (early 1967) it appeared that workers' committees were actually 
going to rule the country (a condition that none of the CCP factions 
could tolerate, of course, all of them agreeing that the PLA must squash 
the unfolding anarchy). 
 
After 20 years of inter- and intra-class warfare, to make it sound as if there 
was a polite discussion with a rational conclusion -- "experience tells us
that you cannot bypass capitalism en route to socialism" -- is such a ruse.
So too is your insinuating that there is some kind of undisturbed lineage from
1949-1955 to the Deng Xiaoping era and afterwards. Perhaps party intellectuals
differed on the pacing and the extent of the move toward full-blown communism,
but it was always understood in the 1949-1955 period that the petty capitalists
would soon be bought out or fused together in cooperatives. The main debate
revolved around how much to ape the Soviet model and how much to squeeze
the rural producers, not how much to use capitalism to build socialism. Anyway, 
I can't afford to go on with this and explain my argument more clearly...
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