On 2012-04-05 05:46, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
>> (others wrote)
And also test and develop actively in .deb based systems (all architectures,
I believe) , *BSDs (at least 6 of them), OS X, Solaris, AIX, HP UX, Win32 and
VMS. OpenVOS reports come in semi-regularly.
*All* of these platforms are ASCII based. We have a pretty good idea what
will break on them if we make changes. Plus all the users of these platforms
help with fixing the reported problems.
We have no such idea for z/OS systems. And no help.
THAT is what this is about.
I do understand that. I tried very hard in... umm, 2007 or so, I think,
to lean directly on IBM (using a shoulder loaned from Morgan-Stanley)
to reestablish the good working arrangement we had in 2002 or so where
I got a login access to an actual z/OS box. No such luck: the managers
had changed, and at some point the idea of an open source project
without a multimillion(billion) dollar account using their development
systems just didn't fit into their brain. Abort abort abort.
The lower level managers who got it were quite apologetic.
And the userbase of EBCDIC Perl just seems to be too thin. An
the machines are usually tied to some financial style heavily
locked down production use, so outsiders are more than just
frowned upon. (E.g. while Morgan Stanley still does use Perl,
they cannot open up their machines.)
I'm just sad of all that work getting wasted.
I just found out about this mailing list last week, and I joined it to see if
anything was going on. Apparently, there is, and it's not good.
I'll be ignorant here by not looking at the archives, and will throw out this question - has anyone posted to either the IBM-MAIN or MVS-OE listservs? Those two lists are ideal for broadcasting the need. In addition to customers, there are a lot of ISVs
on the list, and I feel confident that at least one of them would step up to the plate. If no one has, I'll volunteer to act as an initial introduction point to the lists.
There are also other ways that use gray area means, but eventually some sort of
truly-licensed method would be required.
Cheers,
Ray
--
M. Ray Mullins
Roseville, CA, USA
http://www.catherdersoftware.com/
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