On Saturday 20 October 2001 11:54, you wrote:

> So why is this tested using a mock-up by Net::Config?  Sounds like
> a job the Socket should be testing (and it is).

Oh, no!  It's not.  Mock::Socket is just a dummy object with the same 
interface as Socket.  It lets the test control the data sent back to 
Net::Config.  The test doesn't care whether or not Socket works.  That's 
*way* out of the scope of Net::Config.  The real Socket.pm should never be 
loaded.

(The test also doesn't care whether or not t/op/var.t fails, for example.  So 
it's not as bad as it sounds.  If most everything is properly tested in 
isolation, it's *much* easier to find the one broken thing.)

> That the tests tells us "tests 3, 17, 18, and 22 were skipped because
> you do not seem to have an environment the test expects" is a nice
> tidbit for the installer to know, but will that help the users if the
> matter is not permanently documented?  If the detailed test results
> were *recorded* somewhere in the installation, they would be much more
> useful: "Note that feature blartz does not work in GoofOS, because ..."

Perhaps Test::Harness should capture skip messages and append them to a POD 
somewhere?  I'm happy to work on this if it's a good idea.

"You appear to be running $^O.  The following tests were skipped.  This does 
not guarantee the modules will not run on your system, but it is a pretty 
good indication that you are on your own."

> > The best we can do is establish a baseline of behavior that ought to work
> > on all platforms.  If it throws up red flags and makes someone *think*
> > about
>
> I hope you have noticed that the baseline is rather low.

As long as it's marked...  :)

-- c

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