* Andy Lester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-09-02 22:20]:
> Can the cpan-testers please get a dedicated list that is not perl-qa?

So there is Perl-QA, TAPx-Dev (where I’ve been dragging my feet
to subscribe), the IETF TAP list, the Module::Build and CPANPLUS
lists, and now cpan-testers-discuss. I am sure I am missing a few
more.

Just how much further can we splinter the discussion?

If I need to subscribe to 15 lists to get full coverage of all
that is going on in a single area of the Perl world, is it any
wonder that no one outside of Perl ever hears of anything that
is going on in Perl? Is it any wonder at all that it is so hard
for “normal” people, whatever that means to you, to keep up with
what modules represent community state of the art? To the extent
that we need to talk about rethinking CPAN?

(Yes, the last one has more reasons. This is not an argument that
CPAN is without flaws.)

* Andy Lester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-09-02 23:40]:
> Also, as far as I know, CPAN Testers has never asked the
> readers of the CPAN Testers or search.cpan.org "What would you
> like us to do for you?"  The features in CPAN Testers are 100%
> self-created dogma.

Seriously? First you say you want them to play in their own
sandbox, then you say they’ve never asked anyone?

This recalls to mind a trademark Linus rant I read a while ago.
In that mail he was actively discouraging people from starting a
special-interest mailing list for some kernel subsystem they were
working on which didn’t look like he would be including it in
his kernel tree anytime soon. His argument was that while
creating little echo chambers may feel more comfortable to
everyone (on all sides), it doesn’t help the quality of the end
result. Staying in a place frequented by people with possibly
contrary opinions or with extradisciplinary viewpoints is
ultimately a better strategy.

Regards,
-- 
Aristotle Pagaltzis // <http://plasmasturm.org/>

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