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- -----Original Message-----
From: Thomas_M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: May 09, 2000 13:15
To: Perl-Win32-Users Mailing List
Cc: Perl-Win32-Users
Subject: RE: ActivePerl-Users (was RE: creating wed mail account)


Andrew Bastien wrote:
> Well, the people who are asking Linux questions are asking on 
> the wrong list.

Yes, but how about people who are asking Perl questions? And just happen to
use Linux? What if they use both Linux and Windows? Where do you draw the
line?


Well, I would say if you're asking a question about a Perl script that is intended to 
be run on a Win32 system, then this list would be a good place.  If you want the same 
script to run on a Linux box, then I don't see any problem with that.  


I do much of much of my development in Perl. My applications happen to run
on both NT and Solaris, which is one of the great advantages of Perl. I
would say, however, that the majority of the time the perl interpreter that
runs my programs is on Solaris. Should I stop posting to this list?
 

No, as long as your script is intended to be run on a Win32 system (or, by extension, 
intended to interface with a Win32 machine).


> While there are people here who are kind 
> enough to overlook this mistake, this does not mean that the 
> list should be changed to accomodate those that use it 
> inappropriately.  There are general Perl newsgroups and 
> plenty of Unix-specific places to get Perl informaton, but 
> very few good Win32 Perl resources.

There are very few, if any, Perl resources as good as this list. That's why
there are a lot of unix users subscribed. The clpm newsgroup just isn't as
good as it used to be.


Unfortunately, usenet in general just isn't as good as it used to be.   And, having 
slashed and burnt that territory, spammers have moved on to email...don't get me 
started...  You can still find a fair amount of information by searching with Dejanews 
or Remarq (or both simultaneously with Dogpile).

> Don't dilute this one by making it just another Perl mailing list.

I don't think the quality of this list would change. But I also wouldn't
have a problem with a different solution (perhaps a separate list otherwise
identical to this one) that would allow people that use Linux or Solaris
boxes to discuss Perl issues.


I agree that the quality of the list probably would not change, but the volume sure 
would and the difficulty of following interesting threads would.  Perl, as a whole, is 
just too broad of a topic to be served well by one list.  To tell the truth, I don't 
really care if someone occasionally posts a Linux or Solaris question, but including 
them as a matter of policy is entirely different.  If ActiveState (or anyone else) 
wants to host a Perl-Linux-Users list or Perl-Unixish-Users, I think that would be 
great and I would be among the subscribers.  There are already groups for Perl-Tk, 
Perl-DBI, Perl-Modules, and a few other subsets of Perl, and these are primarily Unix 
groups.  In addition, the archives can be accessed by anyone with a browser (including 
Lynx ;-)), and I would bet that most general questions could be answered with an 
archive search.

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Mark Thomas
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> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas_M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: May 09, 2000 10:43
> To: Perl-Win32-Users Mailing List
> Cc: Perl-Win32-Users
> Subject: RE: creating wed mail account
> 
> 
> > However, it's not "ActivePerl-Users" but "Perl-Win32-Users". 
> 
> This brings up a question: Perhaps it should now be 
> ActivePerl-Users? This
> would serve to further emphasize the cross-platformness of 
> ActivePerl, and
> besides, in 90% of the discussions here, the OS is 
> irrelevant. A lot of
> people ask their linux questions here anyway, and we don't 
> find out unless
> someone gives a Win32-specific answer and they respond "um, 
> well, I'm using
> linux. Any other ideas?"
> 
> > And, as Woodrow
> > pointed out, neither "Perl" nor "Win32" has anything to do 
> > with web mail as
> > such. They can be done in Perl, but then on-topic questions 
> > would be about
> > the implementation rather than the algorithm, in my opinion. 
> > That is to say,
> > "I want to do X Y Z in order to set up web mail, how do I 
> > express this in
> > Perl?" rather than "How do I set up web mail?".
> 
> I agree. But I have a feeling that's what the original poster 
> really meant.
> He could have been more specific, though.
> 
> - --
> Mark Thomas
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