On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 12:57, Simon Cozens wrote:
> > 1. Larry gets help in writing these (various degrees of delegation).
>
> I think we've been through this idea, no?
I dropped off the face of the earth for a bit... sorry if I am
re-hashing something old I did not see anything in the archives, but
have not read everything in depth either.
> > 2. Perl 6 now (apoc 1-6), Perl 7 when the apocs are done.
>
> Ouch, no.
I would tend to agree.
> > 3. Perl 5.aleph-1: Perl 5 code-base, Perl 6ish feature-set.
>
> Shouldn't we all be helping Artur with Ponie?
Well, p5 on parrot isn't really any closer to Perl 6 is it? I agree that
it's needed, but not sure that it resolves the problem that p5 can't
really grow substantially while the spectre of p6 hangs over it. Thus,
we're in a kind of stasis for now.
> > 4. Don't worry, be happy (aka back in your hole, Hobbit! ;-)
>
> Why do we need Perl 6 tomorrow?
Tomorrow? I don't. Keep in mind that I've held off this comment for a
year now.
But everything that I see as an external observer tells me that p6 won't
even be defined in my lifetime. You say that's not true, and believe me
I CHEER to hear that. But if it is true, I want to know how I can help
make it NOT true.
There are certain structural problems with Perl as it stands that I
really need to get fixed or I'm going to have to stop using it in
production in favor of other languages that I like far less. It was my
understanding that those things were also some of the primary goals of
Perl 6, so I got excited in 2001 about how much better my life would be
... soon ....
Those include:
* way to package environment-neutral programs reliably
* parameterized argument passing with basic type constraints
* much improved and more reliable thread-safety
* A far lighter weight exception system
If Perl 6 contained only the above and nothing else, I would be a happy
camper, and my production code would be far less prone to errors and
structural shortcomings.
--
Aaron Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Senior Systems Engineer and Toolsmith
"It's the sound of a satellite saying, 'get me down!'" -Shriekback
