Hi Dean,
I may not be up to speed with RELOAD but I understood that all the
energy has vanished from that work. There were also a number of
technical problems.
Maybe someone can give us a brief update on the status.
Ciao
Hannes
On 09.09.2013 17:46, Dean Willis wrote:
I think we can mostly get there with RELOAD, but the implementations are
still pretty early.
On Sep 9, 2013 6:53 AM, "Hannes Tschofenig" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Linus,
thanks for the comments.
I have indeed skipped that topic. I will have to read into the
Mumble project to see what security and privacy guarantees it provides.
My current conclusion from using VoIP/IM systems without using Tor
is that you cannot really protect against collecting this
transaction data (i.e., you have to at least trust the two VSPs, our
own and then the VSP of your communication partner). While you can
influence routing of the data traffic to a certain extend it does
not work too well when your VSP is working against you.
With IM you could at least set up your own server (e.g., by using an
XMPP server) but with VoIP that's more complicated because nobody
else will accepted your connection attempts (as explained in the
interconnection part of my write-up).
I will come back to you on that issue.
Ciao
Hannes
On 09.09.2013 14:31, Linus Nordberg wrote:
Hannes Tschofenig<hannes.tschofenig@__gmx.net
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote
Mon, 09 Sep 2013 11:26:39 +0300:
| http://www.tschofenig.priv.at/__wp/?p=997
<http://www.tschofenig.priv.at/wp/?p=997>
|
| It contains a number of recommendations, which are addressed
to VoIP
| providers and vendors but have to be enforced by data protection
| authorities.
|
| The recommendations unfortunately highlight some challenges...
Indeed. And still, I miss any mention on protection against
collecting
data about who's talking to who.
Without claiming any expertise at all in this area, the closest
thing to
something implementing this that I've heard of is Mumble over
Tor. Mumble [0] is not standardised AFAICT. The Guardian Project
wrote
[1] about this earlier this year. Some people seem to use it [2].
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Mumble_%28software%29
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumble_%28software%29>
[1]
https://trac.torproject.org/__projects/tor/wiki/doc/__TorifyHOWTO/Mumble
<https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorifyHOWTO/Mumble>
[2]
https://guardianproject.info/__2013/01/31/anonymous-cb-radio-__with-mumble-and-tor/
<https://guardianproject.info/2013/01/31/anonymous-cb-radio-with-mumble-and-tor/>
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