Hi Phill,

Yep I had a read, seems like good stuff, and getting attention which can also 
be good. 

It just wasn't clear to me what specific outcome might arise. And since you 
said you'd another draft on the boil I figured I'd wait for that,

Cheers.
S

On 17 Sep 2013, at 02:06, Phillip Hallam-Baker <[email protected]> wrote:

> I wrote a draft that attempts to set out criteria for 'PRISM-PROOF' security. 
> Actually it is more general than that looking at any bulk surveillance 
> scheme. It is a summary of material from this and other lists.
> 
> The main reason I wrote it was to capture conversation from other lists that 
> kept going round in circles and to provide a basis for evaluating my other 
> design.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Stephen Farrell <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> 
>> Hiya,
>> 
>> I've gone through the perpass archive to try make a
>> list of the things that seem to be more doable/stable.
>> 
>> This is just to make it more manageable for me, the
>> list has no official status whatsoever. I've not included
>> things where I'm not clear what might be the outcome.
>> Even if I include something I may well be wrong that
>> there'll be a clear outcome.
>> 
>> Let me know if I've missed stuff (probably) or if you've
>> any other comments. On or off list, whichever's better.
>> 
>> I do know that some other folks are discussing some
>> other relevant activities that are not yet published or
>> weren't mentioned on this list. When/if you want those
>> added here, just give me the info. and I'll add it. (If
>> your thing hasn't been discussed on an IETF list or
>> published in an I-D, I'd rather see that happen first if
>> you don't mind, for all the normal tedious IPR/Note-well
>> reasons.)
>> 
>> I'll sporadically maintain this between now and Vancouver
>> at [1] (you may prefer to read it at [2], since [1] will
>> get you browser warnings about my self-signed cert. (*)
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> S.
>> 
>> [1] https://down.dsg.cs.tcd.ie/misc/perpass.txt
>> [2] http://down.dsg.cs.tcd.ie/misc/perpass.txt
>> 
>> (*) Nothing to do with the topic really but I just noticed
>> I'd not updated the key pair in 5 years so I made a new one
>> a few minutes ago since now's a good time before this year's
>> batch of students arrive. (How they complain about that
>> tells me a bit about 'em:-)
>> 
>> 
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