Hi Hannes,
The issue is not that privacy cannot be defined
It is that the concept of privacy and its import
varies widely in different societies, legal systems,
and people. So why would a broad-based technical
technical body even deal with the topic.
As to your ID and its premises, it isn't exactly
accurate. What is today regarded as the Internet
was run on DOD infrastructure. The DARPA
Director who signed off on its pursuit in the 70s
recently testified that he had sufficient concerns
about its security that he directed the NSA to
become involved. Until the mid-90s, most of
the traffic was pervasively monitored by the USG
and contractors. Nothing new there, early commercial
Internet providers in the 1990s mined the data for
network management and commercial sales purposes.
In a best-effort, connectionless infrastructure, pervasive
monitoring is not unimportant.
That same DARPA director in the 1990s lead teams
to deal with what was expected to be significant misuse
of the infrastructure and protocols as the technology
replaced traditional - much more tightly controlled
and "surveilled" telecommunication infrastructure.
The Cybercrime Convention and other legal instruments
and requirements were developed because pervasive
monitoring was essential. The likelihood of terrorists
pulling off something like a 9/11 via the Internet
was the subject of serious concern in the late 90s.
All the European bombings after that, made pervasive
monitoring so important, the EU adopted its directive
for the capture and storage of all meta data.
I could go on, but if you're serious about network
security, might I suggest engagement with any of the
numerous NIST and other governmental efforts
occurring around the world. It's not just the IETF,
and if religious security and K-street lobbying
become the IETF's forté, the organization is only
harming itself.
--tony
On 10/31/2013 11:17 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
The same is true for privacy.
I don't like this "we cannot define it precisely and so we shouldn't
do anything about it" attitude.
Just pushing responsibilities to other communities does not help make
progress. For this reason I have written https://goo.gl/a35BY2, which
explains in what areas challenges exist.
_______________________________________________
perpass mailing list
[email protected]
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/perpass
