On Nov 4, 2013 12:37 PM, "Melinda Shore" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 11/04/2013 10:30 AM, Dean Willis wrote:
>>
>> They'll tell us the effort is pointless, that it is too hard, that the
>> changes required are too expensive, that the overheads will be too much.
>> They'll call us traitors, thieves, and enablers of terrorism and child
>> abuse. They'll try to sap our energy with contrary argument, divert our
>> attention with shiny new problems, and use processes and procedures to
>> block progress.
>
>
> I find this to be histrionic, hyperbolic, and a distraction.  Most of
> all I find it largely irrelevant, as I don't think I've seen anybody
> here argue against the need to improve privacy mechanisms in IETF
> technologies.  There appears to be consensus that this is the case;
> I certainly haven't seen any vigorous argument to the contrary.  If
> you're trying to answer people outside the IETF, this is probably the
> wrong forum.
>

Perhaps you should read more carefully.  I believe I've seen every one of
these techniques applied within the IETF community since the Snowden
revelations began focusing our attention on pervasive security.  It became
even more apparent as I read through the perpass list archive over the last
couple of days.

I might be paranoid, but that doesn't mean they're not out to get me...
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