In the shameless self-promotion department, this IS my day job. See 
http://s2erc.georgetown.edu/projects/cyberISE/ for the theoretical work and 
http://gcsc.georgetown.edu/ if one needs an operational venue.

On Nov 28, 2013, at 9:49 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Randy Bush <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Randy is quite right.
> 
> has to happen occasionally
> 
> > The attacks reported in the news article were against the private
> > optical fibers linking the geographically distributed data centers of
> > large companies like Google or Yahoo. A discussion about that should
> > start with the folks in charge of securing these data centers at
> > Google, Yahoo, Facebook, Microsoft, et cetera. I can see some
> > difficulties, because a fair bit of the data centers architectures is
> > probably treated as trade secret. And I am really not sure that the
> > IETF is the best place to conduct such discussions.
> 
> we had/have the same oroblem with datacenter* wgs.  the folk who really
> do it think of it as secret sauce.  so it becomes the vendors trying to
> sell solutions to problems they don't understand.  hell, i don't even
> know iij datacentr technology to any depth.
> 
> Just to be clear, when I said they are more willing to share than you said 
> earlier, I was referring to a closed door sharing in some members only forum. 
> That model definitely works.
> 
> The IETF might play a role in brokering the setting up of such an 
> organization but any sharing is not going to take place in public and not in 
> the IETF and it is going to take place at a certain degree of abstraction.
> 
>  
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