I see "georgetown.edu" in this sort of context, and all I can think of
is the famous statement "PGP could potentially become a widespread
problem", stated by the NSA stooge Professor Dorothy Denning from
Georgetown University.

It makes me untrusting and suspicious.


On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Eric Burger <[email protected]> wrote:
> In the shameless self-promotion department, this IS my day job. See 
> http://s2erc.georgetown.edu/projects/cyberISE/ for the theoretical work and 
> http://gcsc.georgetown.edu/ if one needs an operational venue.
>
> On Nov 28, 2013, at 9:49 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Randy Bush <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Randy is quite right.
>>
>> has to happen occasionally
>>
>> > The attacks reported in the news article were against the private
>> > optical fibers linking the geographically distributed data centers of
>> > large companies like Google or Yahoo. A discussion about that should
>> > start with the folks in charge of securing these data centers at
>> > Google, Yahoo, Facebook, Microsoft, et cetera. I can see some
>> > difficulties, because a fair bit of the data centers architectures is
>> > probably treated as trade secret. And I am really not sure that the
>> > IETF is the best place to conduct such discussions.
>>
>> we had/have the same oroblem with datacenter* wgs.  the folk who really
>> do it think of it as secret sauce.  so it becomes the vendors trying to
>> sell solutions to problems they don't understand.  hell, i don't even
>> know iij datacentr technology to any depth.
>>
>> Just to be clear, when I said they are more willing to share than you said 
>> earlier, I was referring to a closed door sharing in some members only 
>> forum. That model definitely works.
>>
>> The IETF might play a role in brokering the setting up of such an 
>> organization but any sharing is not going to take place in public and not in 
>> the IETF and it is going to take place at a certain degree of abstraction.
>>
>>
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