Many of us are actually thinking about how to get the IP stack on these
devices.

The IAB had a workshop in 2011 on smart objects and the report can be
found here: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6574

We then had a workshop specifically dedicated to security in 2012:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gilger-smart-object-security-workshop-02
(pending publication as an RFC).

There is even an IAB document in development that touches this topic:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-iab-smart-object-architecture-03
(Comments welcome)

[Recent comments indicated that there is a desire to talk more about
IPv6, and the transition mechanisms. Great that we worked on so many --
will for sure make it easier to fit them all on these devices.]

As you know, we even have the IETF LWIG group that discusses these issues.

If you look at recent events, like the Internet census
http://internetcensus2012.bitbucket.org/paper.html, then it should be
clear that even "small device" need security since otherwise we are
building the next generation botnet. This would not be good (tm).

Ciao
Hannes


On 12/09/2013 07:47 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> On 09/12/2013 11:04, Stewart Bryant (stbryant) wrote:
> (on a different list and under a differeny Subject header)
> ...
>
>> Remembering of course that some platforms which wish
>> to use the Internet simply do not have the capability for
>> other than a very tiny very basic stack.
>>
>> I always use the PIC and the Arduino to remind myself what the
>> lower end of the franchise looks like.
> It seems to me that perpass should think a little bit about
> privacy and anti-surveillance issues for devices with tiny
> stacks, and see if that calls for any specific IETF work items.
>
>     Brian
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