On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, C Bobroff wrote:

> Oh. Too bad. Maybe we should make our own.

A previous member of FarsiWeb has done so personally. But I believe we
lack the authority to do that. We're just computer guys, not linguists.
One of the FarsiWeb's main guidelines is try to invent as little as
possible if some good-enough already exists. In case of orthographies,
this is a sharp edge. The Academy's recommendation is unsuitable even for
our internal use, although it is very good in some of the aspects. Both
supporting it and denouncing it are bad ideas.

> Was "faasele-ye majaazi" already a term used by the hordes? It has a
> poetic ring to it. Or did the people (person??) who developed ISIRI 3342
> make it up?

I guess the notion existed before that in the MacFarsi codepage (the first 
paper mentioning the idea goes to about 1980). But "faasele-ye majaazi" 
should have been invented by the ISIRI 3342 committee.

> > I don't support Behdad's idea generally,
>
> Why not? 

I believe the hassle is not worth it. I like to dream that in a long time
all competent Persian users will enter the same text in exactly the same
way if that's plain enough. Trying to educate the users about the new 
space, providing input methods in different situations, etc is very hard. 
Just consider the case of ZWNJ itself, which 

> If you've got a better idea, I'm all
> ears. Until then, I'm resigned to suffering.

For your situation, you should try Tavultesoft's Keyman which is at
<http://www.tavultesoft.com/>. It has a Persian keymap with Shift+Space
producing ZWNJ and the backtick (`) producing ZWJ. It should work on all
Windows platforms.

roozbeh

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