Both could work, though red would be more likely.  Will have to “check high” 
for signs of entry.  Thanks again.

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dan 
Wixted
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 10:40 AM
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I just checked with our wildlife control specialist to verify my suspicion 
about flying squirrel, and he says it could be either red squirrel or flying 
squirrel. Droppings for each are similar in shape and about 3/8”.

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<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of 
Perkins, Eric (DNR)
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 10:19 AM
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Could be.  The building is near a park and wooded area.  Also, there are no 
other rat signs like, rubs or gnawed holes.  Hmm…

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Dan 
Wixted
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 9:48 AM
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I wonder if the droppings could be from a flying squirrel. They can definitely 
invade buildings, and their droppings are similar to those of mice, but up to 
1/2” whereas mice tend to be 1/4”.

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Ok, they seemed too large. Thanks.

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Mouse droppings.



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Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 8:21 AM
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These are more like 3/8”



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<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Dan 
Wixted
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 9:15 AM
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Subject: [pestlist] RE: Help with dropping id



Norway rat droppings will be about 3/4” long.



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Perkins, Eric (DNR)
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 9:10 AM
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Subject: [pestlist] Help with dropping id



Hello Pest Listers,



I am hoping for opinions/confirmation on these droppings, found in a drawer.  I 
am wondering if the larger droppings could be rat?



Thanks,

Eric



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